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I think God represents the unknown instead of a specific person. God is what is beyond the universe, and no one has any idea what that is or where the universe

I think God represents the unknown instead of a specific person. God is what is beyond the universe, and no one has any idea what that is or where the universe came from. So we supplant that absence with a named deity.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
No, this is a common misconception. God is not "beyond the universe", He is Creator of the Universe, and as such, intimately connected and involved with it. In fact our understanding of the universe has been quite advanced for millennia; religion didn't "supplant" any "absence" but religion is a science of the supernatural. It is the synthesis of our knowledge about how God has manifested Himself to us. God is, of course, beyond all our understanding, and we can never fully know Him or His ways, but we can approach that understanding, and hear His voice, and see Him in one another. If you take a look at the universe and study it, you will see how God is manifested in that universe; His fingerprints are all over it; His very breath gives it life. The Holy Trinity is indeed three specific Persons. It is possible to be very specific and precise and know God, as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and we draw closer to a specific person. We do not draw closer to "the unknown" or an "absence" in the universe. That would be horrific. In fact that is the definition of Hell.
- AnonHP 3y ago
  > God is, of course, beyond all our understanding, and we can never fully know So why “him”, “he” and other patriarchal references if god is beyond all our understanding? Haven’t you just created god in your image?
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    I said we can never fully know His essence and nature. He has revealed much about Himself to us that we can know. That was the whole point of my comment, wasn't it.
- MattPalmer1086 3y ago
  Interesting, thank you for providing that. It is of course specifically a Christian viewpoint. The article suggests you would have to find another tribe if you were living in a Hindu dominated place.
- Simulacra 3y ago
  Which is only your belief, you have no scientific proof whatsoever. It's just your faith and obedience to that faith. In my opinion, God was invented because people did not know what else to call it, and they had no proof, so they wrapped it in a religion. No matter how much you might believe in God, never forget that man wrote the book.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    Of course I have proof. I have more proof than you'll ever find for the universe. What an outrageous falsehood and strawman to tell people we don't have proof of God or faith. You have no idea, you have no experience, you have no basis for sniping at faith like that. You should be ashamed of yourself. I hope that your life is not so empty and miserable that you never find out who God is.
    - Sirizarry 3y ago
      What’s your proof?
    - CyberDildonics 3y ago
      Of course I have proof. I have more proof than you'll ever find for the universe. What is it? I think there's a lot of proof for the universe. What an outrageous falsehood and strawman to tell people we don't have proof of God or faith. Then where is it? You should be ashamed of yourself. I hope that your life is not so empty and miserable that you never find out who God is. When you believe something, say you have evidence, never show it, then try to shame people for asking and insult them, that's usually called a detachment from reality.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

No, this is a common misconception. God is not "beyond the universe", He is Creator of the Universe, and as such, intimately connected and involved with it. In fact our understanding of the universe has been quite advanced for millennia; religion didn't "supplant" any "absence" but religion is a science of the supernatural. It is the synthesis of our knowledge about how God has manifested Himself to us. God is, of course, beyond all our understanding, and we can never fully know Him or His ways, but we can approach that understanding, and hear His voice, and see Him in one another. If you take a look at the universe and study it, you will see how God is manifested in that universe; His fingerprints are all over it; His very breath gives it life. The Holy Trinity is indeed three specific Persons. It is possible to be very specific and precise and know God, as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and we draw closer to a specific person. We do not draw closer to "the unknown" or an "absence" in the universe. That would be horrific. In fact that is the definition of Hell.

AnonHP 3y ago
> God is, of course, beyond all our understanding, and we can never fully know So why “him”, “he” and other patriarchal references if god is beyond all our understanding? Haven’t you just created god in your image?
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  I said we can never fully know His essence and nature. He has revealed much about Himself to us that we can know. That was the whole point of my comment, wasn't it.
MattPalmer1086 3y ago
Interesting, thank you for providing that. It is of course specifically a Christian viewpoint. The article suggests you would have to find another tribe if you were living in a Hindu dominated place.
Simulacra 3y ago
Which is only your belief, you have no scientific proof whatsoever. It's just your faith and obedience to that faith. In my opinion, God was invented because people did not know what else to call it, and they had no proof, so they wrapped it in a religion. No matter how much you might believe in God, never forget that man wrote the book.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  Of course I have proof. I have more proof than you'll ever find for the universe. What an outrageous falsehood and strawman to tell people we don't have proof of God or faith. You have no idea, you have no experience, you have no basis for sniping at faith like that. You should be ashamed of yourself. I hope that your life is not so empty and miserable that you never find out who God is.
  - Sirizarry 3y ago
    What’s your proof?
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    Of course I have proof. I have more proof than you'll ever find for the universe. What is it? I think there's a lot of proof for the universe. What an outrageous falsehood and strawman to tell people we don't have proof of God or faith. Then where is it? You should be ashamed of yourself. I hope that your life is not so empty and miserable that you never find out who God is. When you believe something, say you have evidence, never show it, then try to shame people for asking and insult them, that's usually called a detachment from reality.