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Interestingly yimbys are often associated with youngish urban lefties but the core principles are actually conservative in nature. Strongtowns.org discusses thi
by CalRobert 3y ago
Interestingly yimbys are often associated with youngish urban lefties but the core principles are actually conservative in nature. Strongtowns.org discusses this a lot. Well built cities are more financially sustainable ones.
- fallingfrog 3y ago[flagged]
- Georgelemental 3y agoWhat is it with the obsession some progressives have with badmouthing potential allies? Is dunking on the outgroup really so much more important than accomplishing your political objectives? - Earnest question from me, a YIMBY conservative
- polygamous_bat 3y ago> What is it with the obsession some progressives have with badmouthing potential allies? If your commitment to the cause evaporates because "a leftie was mean to you on the internet", what kind of commitment are you offering in the first place?
- Georgelemental 3y agoI am still just as much of a YIMBY as I was 10 minutes ago.
- jrajav 3y agoI disagree with the GP's predictable refrain that conservatism is naturally more financially 'smart', but I also find your characterization of conservatism a little bizarre. More to the point, it's ironic that both GP and yourself are making partisan stabs when the article's main point is that the success of this movement might stem from its marked nonpartisanship.
- fallingfrog 3y agoApologies, it’s not really my intention to make partisan stabs.. as far as I can tell, and both my parents are conservative evangelicals, this desire for safety and familiarity is the driving force behind conservatism. The idea being that there’s an order to the world, and it’s divine, and everyone has a place and a role, and so on. Start from understanding how it feels to have absolute certainty in a simple, familiar world and you can explain 99% of conservative behavior. It’s not an attack, it’s just my personal observation of how religious conservatives think.
- 40yearoldman 3y agoIt's a circle, one day the left will find out they are on the right. And the right will find out they are on the left.
- growingkittens 3y agoPolitics is really more of a multidimensional spectrum. I don't know why it's so popular to represent the entire political spectrum on one line. I guess that's what is taught in school?
- paleotrope 3y agoMakes reporting easier since the stories have clean lines for bad and good guys.
- jupp0r 3y agoYou might find https://www.politicalcompass.org/ https://www.politicalcompass.org/ interesting. They move it to two dimensions.
- growingkittens 3y agoFor the sake of discussion, "authoritarian" vs. "libertarian" is a useful concept. But that compass still uses the utterly useless 'left' and 'right' dimensions.
- jupp0r 3y agoOne axis represents the economic and the other the social dimension. No ambiguity about left and right there. It's obviously only a model and people's actual political beliefs have more dimensions.
- growingkittens 3y agoThe words "left" and "right" can be used in an economic sense. In terms of actual political usage, the definition of left and right varies so wildly among individuals that it has no one understood meaning.