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> Sam Bankman-Fried, a vegan, has been subsisting on a diet of bread and water, with the occasional smear of peanut butter. I think when you go to prison, in a

> Sam Bankman-Fried, a vegan, has been subsisting on a diet of bread and water, with the occasional smear of peanut butter. I think when you go to prison, in addition to giving up your freedom of movement, you give up your dietary preferences. I was actually pleasantly surprised by the article. I thought it would be about SBF getting special treatment in prison on account of his wealth and connections and that would be the failure described. Seeing the actual article makes me feel that he is being treated justly. Remember SBF is a psychopath and will say or do anything to manipulate people.

slavboj 3y ago
He is not in "prison". He is being detained pre trial and presumed innocent.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  Ehhhh, SBF was tampering with witnesses. SBF had a cushy house arrest inside his private Billionaire-class mansion until he started tampering with witnesses. SBF is presumed innocent (for now) on FTX issues. But he's being punished for his poor pre-trial behaviors. Which is fair and just, prison conditions aside.
  - TheHumanist 3y ago
    Their point is he is not in prison. Prison is post-conviction. Jail/detention center is pre-trial.
    - r00fus 3y ago
      He's in jail because he violated the terms of his very cushy house-arrest. So I would say he has been imprisoned for violations, even though he hasn't been convicted of his original crime.
      - readthenotes1 3y ago
        "there is still some truth to the perception that the only person Bankman-Fried has to blame for his current predicament is himself. " I stopped reading this propaganda here... There is absolute, incontrovertible, and complete truth that the the only person Bankman-Fried has to blame for his current predicament is himself. And he knew how bad it would be from his previous jail time.
        dragontamer 3y ago
        Molly White is a sarcastic writer. The above line is called understatement. She's been following crypto-bullshit for years. Trust me, she's the last person who'd say a nice thing about SBF.
        readthenotes1 3y ago
        She failed to use the sarcasm font...
dragontamer 3y ago
Ish. A hypothetical Hindu prisoner who is forced to eat meat is definitely a religious objection that is related to SBFs vegan preferences here. SBF can afford lawyers who can make a big stink of prison conditions. We all know prisons in USA are understaffed with poor conditions, and too many Americans are fine with this even if it an injustice to those we are housing there. SBF deserves punishment and to be treated as a criminal. But criminals as a whole arguably deserve better than this.
lotsofpulp 3y ago
> I think when you go to prison, in addition to giving up your freedom of movement, you give up your dietary preferences. In the US, members of some tribes such and Judaism and Islam are legally entitled to receiving Kosher/Halal/and other food preferences. However, members of the vegan tribe probably do not have sufficient political power to get their food preferences in prison.
- rwmj 3y ago
  Does he have a medical need to be vegan?
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    Why is that relevant? I assume prisons are required to adhere to medical restrictions. My point was you are allowed to have food preferences in prison, assuming you are a member of a tribe with sufficient political power.
    - TheHumanist 3y ago
      His choosing to be vegan is like my choosing to only eat white meat and fish (along with the usual vegetarian fare). Should I be able to get that if I knowingly break the law and go to jail? They can only do so much for a person. They have a kitchen that makes food for EVERYONE. It isn't to-order. I do agree 100% that conditions in our prison system are beyond atrocious. They are so so awful. I just have a hard time believing wherever he is sitting is one of those worse-off places. He can eat some damn meat in jail. He's being an entitled prick.
      - lotsofpulp 3y ago
        Are people who demand kosher and halal food entitled pricks? My parents did not eat meat/seafood/poultry, and I was not given any either. As a result, I have a severe distaste for meat/seafood/poultry, I even find the smell makes me gag. Should I be forced to eat meat/seafood/poultry in prison to get my protein needs, just because I do not adhere to a tribe with sufficient political power to force an exception?

slavboj 3y ago

He is not in "prison". He is being detained pre trial and presumed innocent.

dragontamer 3y ago
Ehhhh, SBF was tampering with witnesses. SBF had a cushy house arrest inside his private Billionaire-class mansion until he started tampering with witnesses. SBF is presumed innocent (for now) on FTX issues. But he's being punished for his poor pre-trial behaviors. Which is fair and just, prison conditions aside.
- TheHumanist 3y ago
  Their point is he is not in prison. Prison is post-conviction. Jail/detention center is pre-trial.
  - r00fus 3y ago
    He's in jail because he violated the terms of his very cushy house-arrest. So I would say he has been imprisoned for violations, even though he hasn't been convicted of his original crime.
    - readthenotes1 3y ago
      "there is still some truth to the perception that the only person Bankman-Fried has to blame for his current predicament is himself. " I stopped reading this propaganda here... There is absolute, incontrovertible, and complete truth that the the only person Bankman-Fried has to blame for his current predicament is himself. And he knew how bad it would be from his previous jail time.
      - dragontamer 3y ago
        Molly White is a sarcastic writer. The above line is called understatement. She's been following crypto-bullshit for years. Trust me, she's the last person who'd say a nice thing about SBF.
        readthenotes1 3y ago
        She failed to use the sarcasm font...

dragontamer 3y ago

Ish. A hypothetical Hindu prisoner who is forced to eat meat is definitely a religious objection that is related to SBFs vegan preferences here. SBF can afford lawyers who can make a big stink of prison conditions. We all know prisons in USA are understaffed with poor conditions, and too many Americans are fine with this even if it an injustice to those we are housing there. SBF deserves punishment and to be treated as a criminal. But criminals as a whole arguably deserve better than this.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

> I think when you go to prison, in addition to giving up your freedom of movement, you give up your dietary preferences. In the US, members of some tribes such and Judaism and Islam are legally entitled to receiving Kosher/Halal/and other food preferences. However, members of the vegan tribe probably do not have sufficient political power to get their food preferences in prison.

rwmj 3y ago
Does he have a medical need to be vegan?
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  Why is that relevant? I assume prisons are required to adhere to medical restrictions. My point was you are allowed to have food preferences in prison, assuming you are a member of a tribe with sufficient political power.
  - TheHumanist 3y ago
    His choosing to be vegan is like my choosing to only eat white meat and fish (along with the usual vegetarian fare). Should I be able to get that if I knowingly break the law and go to jail? They can only do so much for a person. They have a kitchen that makes food for EVERYONE. It isn't to-order. I do agree 100% that conditions in our prison system are beyond atrocious. They are so so awful. I just have a hard time believing wherever he is sitting is one of those worse-off places. He can eat some damn meat in jail. He's being an entitled prick.
    - lotsofpulp 3y ago
      Are people who demand kosher and halal food entitled pricks? My parents did not eat meat/seafood/poultry, and I was not given any either. As a result, I have a severe distaste for meat/seafood/poultry, I even find the smell makes me gag. Should I be forced to eat meat/seafood/poultry in prison to get my protein needs, just because I do not adhere to a tribe with sufficient political power to force an exception?