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Eufy, the company who'd send your footage to their cloud unencrypted even if you didn't have cloud storage enabled? https://gizmodo.com/eufy-local-security-cam

by tbyehl 3y ago

Eufy, the company who'd send your footage to their cloud unencrypted even if you didn't have cloud storage enabled? https://gizmodo.com/eufy-local-security-camera-cloud-unencrypted-scandal-1850059207 https://gizmodo.com/eufy-local-security-camera-cloud-unencry...

TeMPOraL 3y ago
On that note, does there exist a company I could buy cameras to install at home, that 1) doesn't force me to go through some cloud, and 2) sells products to European market? I was excited about buying some Amcrest cameras, only to then discover it fails point 2) - I can't just get them without complex and expensive sourcing process, and should I do it anyway, jumping over the voltage difference between US and EU grids. (I mean, I probably could make Amcrest stuff work if I tried hard enough, but I am at the age where spare time is precious, so I was looking for something that I could order and install without hassle or tinkering with mains electricity.)
- selectodude 3y ago
  Ubiquiti cameras check all three of those boxes.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Thanks, I'll check it out. Maybe I was wrong, I always thought Ubiquity was literally the definition of "network hardware, except as a cloud service".
    - tbyehl 3y ago
      They definitely have Meraki MRR envy but nothing they've tried so far has really stuck. However, aside from network gear, every product line is an island that does not interop with anyone else's products. UniFi Protect only runs on their NVRs and "Dream" routers and only works with UniFi cameras. The wireless cameras only work with Protect because otherwise there's no way to get them on the network. Once a camera is paired to Protect, you cannot get a standard RTSP stream directly from it (but you can restream RTSP from Protect). They've got a Doorbell camera that doesn't send ring notifications or video to HomeKit / Alexa / Google Home. There's hack-y stuff to make Protect work with standard RTSP cameras. And a HomeBridge plug-in to get HomeKit. But it's all subject to breakage and YMMV. All that said, Protect is pretty great. I'm a (mostly) happy home user.

by tbyehl 3y ago

TeMPOraL 3y ago

On that note, does there exist a company I could buy cameras to install at home, that 1) doesn't force me to go through some cloud, and 2) sells products to European market? I was excited about buying some Amcrest cameras, only to then discover it fails point 2) - I can't just get them without complex and expensive sourcing process, and should I do it anyway, jumping over the voltage difference between US and EU grids. (I mean, I probably could make Amcrest stuff work if I tried hard enough, but I am at the age where spare time is precious, so I was looking for something that I could order and install without hassle or tinkering with mains electricity.)

selectodude 3y ago
Ubiquiti cameras check all three of those boxes.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Thanks, I'll check it out. Maybe I was wrong, I always thought Ubiquity was literally the definition of "network hardware, except as a cloud service".
  - tbyehl 3y ago
    They definitely have Meraki MRR envy but nothing they've tried so far has really stuck. However, aside from network gear, every product line is an island that does not interop with anyone else's products. UniFi Protect only runs on their NVRs and "Dream" routers and only works with UniFi cameras. The wireless cameras only work with Protect because otherwise there's no way to get them on the network. Once a camera is paired to Protect, you cannot get a standard RTSP stream directly from it (but you can restream RTSP from Protect). They've got a Doorbell camera that doesn't send ring notifications or video to HomeKit / Alexa / Google Home. There's hack-y stuff to make Protect work with standard RTSP cameras. And a HomeBridge plug-in to get HomeKit. But it's all subject to breakage and YMMV. All that said, Protect is pretty great. I'm a (mostly) happy home user.