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> It’s beyond silly to still argue in 2023 that the vaccine prevents Covid. This is a unthinking semantic misdirection. It is clear that vaccination does not

> It’s beyond silly to still argue in 2023 that the vaccine prevents Covid. This is a unthinking semantic misdirection. It is clear that vaccination does not prevent every case of covid in the vaccinated. No-one is seriously saying that, and you don't seem stupid enough to actually think that this "all or nothing" reading is the intended meaning. it is equally clear that vaccination lowers the risk of catching covid. That is to say: it prevents some cases. As well as reducing the risk of serious illness and hospitalizations. Vaccination prevents covid, a percentage of the time. It is not perfect, but gives you better odds no not catching the infection. Therefor: Vaccination prevents covid. As the parent poster said, "you should stop spreading misinformation". Are you usually prone to simplistic, conspiratorial thinking, or do you just have a poor diet of sources of information?

scarface_74 3y ago
Can you show any evidence that you are less likely to catch Covid if you have been vaccinated? None of the official wording that I have seen from the CDC or the medical industry has said that > As well as reducing the risk of serious illness and hospitalizations. I’m not arguing that. > As the parent poster said, "you should stop spreading misinformation". Are you usually prone to simplistic, conspiratorial thinking, or do you just have a poor diet of sources of information? So it’s a conspiracy that I’m arguing based on information I’m citing from the CDC? If you find reliable information from the CDC, DHHS, etc I’ll concede that point.
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
  > Can you show any evidence that you are less likely to catch Covid if you have been vaccinated Can you show me evidence that it's the same likelihood? I am curious as to why you would think that. And I don't see anywhere where the CDC says so. The "serious outcomes" that they talk about are simply easier to measure. But you must have got this deeply misguided idea from somewhere.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    So you can’t measure it, the CDC nor the DHHS claim it. But you just know it to be true?
    - SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
      > So you can’t measure it, I didn't say that, I just decided that I'm not doing your googling for you. As the saying goes "Dude, I've known you for ten seconds & enjoyed none of them, I'm not taking homework assignments from you. " The usual play by anti-vax trolls is to act persuadable enough to send people off on long excursions. They're not actually convincible of course, no matter what you say to them they'll trot out the same garbage talking points to some else soon.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        So I’m acting as an “anti-vax” troll by citing from the CDC and DHHS and saying that I agree with what they say? It seems like you are acting more like the troll by refusing to believe the exact words that come from the CDC and DHHS and just having a “belief” system without proof. I have posted from only three websites to support my arguments - the CDC, DHHS, and Yale medicine. You have posted…nothing
        SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
        You're reading between the lines of those sources, and seeing what you want to see, things that they simply never say. And to these you cling, lest you learn more. It's dishonest. If it ducks like a quack... Multiple people have now told you to stop spreading misinformation. But, keep digging.

scarface_74 3y ago

Can you show any evidence that you are less likely to catch Covid if you have been vaccinated? None of the official wording that I have seen from the CDC or the medical industry has said that > As well as reducing the risk of serious illness and hospitalizations. I’m not arguing that. > As the parent poster said, "you should stop spreading misinformation". Are you usually prone to simplistic, conspiratorial thinking, or do you just have a poor diet of sources of information? So it’s a conspiracy that I’m arguing based on information I’m citing from the CDC? If you find reliable information from the CDC, DHHS, etc I’ll concede that point.

SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
> Can you show any evidence that you are less likely to catch Covid if you have been vaccinated Can you show me evidence that it's the same likelihood? I am curious as to why you would think that. And I don't see anywhere where the CDC says so. The "serious outcomes" that they talk about are simply easier to measure. But you must have got this deeply misguided idea from somewhere.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  So you can’t measure it, the CDC nor the DHHS claim it. But you just know it to be true?
  - SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
    > So you can’t measure it, I didn't say that, I just decided that I'm not doing your googling for you. As the saying goes "Dude, I've known you for ten seconds & enjoyed none of them, I'm not taking homework assignments from you. " The usual play by anti-vax trolls is to act persuadable enough to send people off on long excursions. They're not actually convincible of course, no matter what you say to them they'll trot out the same garbage talking points to some else soon.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      So I’m acting as an “anti-vax” troll by citing from the CDC and DHHS and saying that I agree with what they say? It seems like you are acting more like the troll by refusing to believe the exact words that come from the CDC and DHHS and just having a “belief” system without proof. I have posted from only three websites to support my arguments - the CDC, DHHS, and Yale medicine. You have posted…nothing
      - SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
        You're reading between the lines of those sources, and seeing what you want to see, things that they simply never say. And to these you cling, lest you learn more. It's dishonest. If it ducks like a quack... Multiple people have now told you to stop spreading misinformation. But, keep digging.