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listen to yourself a bit, that is not a Canadian speaking. we are peaceful people, accepting of a diversity of views, and peaceful protests are the heart of de

listen to yourself a bit, that is not a Canadian speaking. we are peaceful people, accepting of a diversity of views, and peaceful protests are the heart of democracy. the rhetoric you're using is straight from the hateful propaganda spread by the PM and his "liberal" party. quite liberal, aren't we ?

rekabis 3y ago
> and peaceful protests are the heart of democracy Peaceful protests? WHAT PEACEFUL PROTESTS??? The TruKKKer QUANONvoy wasn’t peaceful in the least. If I parked a big rig on the sidewalk in front of your home and blasted it’s horn all day every day for weeks on end, you would rightly call that psychological violence. If I harassed you on the street, screamed in your face every time you stepped outside, and carried objects that are innocent on the surface but which could easily be used as blunt-force weapons, you would rightly call that immediate threats of physical violence. If I paraded around with an ideology that demanded your death purely based on the colour of your skin, you would rightly call that racial violence. If I demanded to overthrow your elected officials and undemocratically replace them with my own unelected goons that listened only to me, you would rightly call that political violence. If I was in cahoots with the municipal police, which turned a blind eye to all of this and let me run roughshod over you and your community with impunity, you would rightfully call this legally-sanctioned violence. There was no “peaceful protest” anywhere in Ottawa in the early months of 2022. There was just an assembly of anti-democratic fascists who wanted to replace political process and the rule of law with alt-right oppression and totalitarianism that spat in the face of Canadian values. The only thing this trial is about is holding two men accountable for their decisions and actions. And if we followed their self-professed values of “conserving traditions”, they would end up swinging from a noose or in front of a firing squad. After all, that IS the traditional way of dealing with seditionists. > the rhetoric you're using is straight from the hateful propaganda spread by the PM and his "liberal" party. quite liberal, aren't we ? What hateful rhetoric? The fact that everyone is being held to the same legal and social standard? Yes, I imagine not having any special rights does feel very much like persecution and hate. And I’m not a conservative… yes, the Liberals ARE on the political right, they are small-c conservative through-and-through. They’re just right-of-centre reasonable ones which haven’t lost sight of reality, and aren’t obsessed with fascism and totalitarianism. “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” - David Frum, Trumpocracy
- soupbowl 3y ago
  Lol, you are over the edge.
  - rekabis 3y ago
    > Lol, you are over the edge. Most Canadians don’t share your position. Most Canadians see that TruKKKer QUANONvoy for exactly what it was: an alt-right, racist, ChristoFascist fringe movement protesting its slide into irrelevance and loss of special societal rights. Hell, when 62% of Canadians oppose the convoy, and almost 50% strongly oppose it, the 17% that strongly support it (only one in six!) is very much in the minority. And good riddance. Canada has no use for their ilk, and no place for them either. You want Christofascist totalitarianism? Go to any red state in America. They have exactly the kind of brutal oppression of anyone not white, cis, male, or Christian that you could ever want.
- momirlan 3y ago
  you have an active imagination, too active for your own good.
  - rekabis 3y ago
    > you have an active imagination, too active for your own good. Videos shot by residents of 24/7 honking (https://youtu.be/cmL0ycjSIaU https://youtu.be/cmL0ycjSIaU) is not “imagination”. Businesses complaining about racist assaults (https://twitter.com/sghottawa/status/1487854425368633344 https://twitter.com/sghottawa/status/1487854425368633344) is not “imagination”. And the demands of the convoy leaders to usurp elected officials and dissolve the legally-elected government is an open fact, as they published it publicly. Your fact-free ideology is what is all in your imagination.
    - momirlan 3y ago
      all rubbish. read this book to educate yourself: https://www.amazon.ca/Hold-Line-story-Freedom-Convoy/dp/1990583032 https://www.amazon.ca/Hold-Line-story-Freedom-Convoy/dp/1990...
itiro 3y ago
Peaceful protests that intentionally meddled with others lives to generate headlines. They could have peacefully protested in a corn field. If that’s what Canada allows, then you’re right about the liberals needing to go so conservative leaders can secure the rule of law and order!

rekabis 3y ago

> and peaceful protests are the heart of democracy Peaceful protests? WHAT PEACEFUL PROTESTS??? The TruKKKer QUANONvoy wasn’t peaceful in the least. If I parked a big rig on the sidewalk in front of your home and blasted it’s horn all day every day for weeks on end, you would rightly call that psychological violence. If I harassed you on the street, screamed in your face every time you stepped outside, and carried objects that are innocent on the surface but which could easily be used as blunt-force weapons, you would rightly call that immediate threats of physical violence. If I paraded around with an ideology that demanded your death purely based on the colour of your skin, you would rightly call that racial violence. If I demanded to overthrow your elected officials and undemocratically replace them with my own unelected goons that listened only to me, you would rightly call that political violence. If I was in cahoots with the municipal police, which turned a blind eye to all of this and let me run roughshod over you and your community with impunity, you would rightfully call this legally-sanctioned violence. There was no “peaceful protest” anywhere in Ottawa in the early months of 2022. There was just an assembly of anti-democratic fascists who wanted to replace political process and the rule of law with alt-right oppression and totalitarianism that spat in the face of Canadian values. The only thing this trial is about is holding two men accountable for their decisions and actions. And if we followed their self-professed values of “conserving traditions”, they would end up swinging from a noose or in front of a firing squad. After all, that IS the traditional way of dealing with seditionists. > the rhetoric you're using is straight from the hateful propaganda spread by the PM and his "liberal" party. quite liberal, aren't we ? What hateful rhetoric? The fact that everyone is being held to the same legal and social standard? Yes, I imagine not having any special rights does feel very much like persecution and hate. And I’m not a conservative… yes, the Liberals ARE on the political right, they are small-c conservative through-and-through. They’re just right-of-centre reasonable ones which haven’t lost sight of reality, and aren’t obsessed with fascism and totalitarianism. “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” - David Frum, Trumpocracy

soupbowl 3y ago
Lol, you are over the edge.
- rekabis 3y ago
  > Lol, you are over the edge. Most Canadians don’t share your position. Most Canadians see that TruKKKer QUANONvoy for exactly what it was: an alt-right, racist, ChristoFascist fringe movement protesting its slide into irrelevance and loss of special societal rights. Hell, when 62% of Canadians oppose the convoy, and almost 50% strongly oppose it, the 17% that strongly support it (only one in six!) is very much in the minority. And good riddance. Canada has no use for their ilk, and no place for them either. You want Christofascist totalitarianism? Go to any red state in America. They have exactly the kind of brutal oppression of anyone not white, cis, male, or Christian that you could ever want.
momirlan 3y ago
you have an active imagination, too active for your own good.
- rekabis 3y ago
  > you have an active imagination, too active for your own good. Videos shot by residents of 24/7 honking (https://youtu.be/cmL0ycjSIaU https://youtu.be/cmL0ycjSIaU) is not “imagination”. Businesses complaining about racist assaults (https://twitter.com/sghottawa/status/1487854425368633344 https://twitter.com/sghottawa/status/1487854425368633344) is not “imagination”. And the demands of the convoy leaders to usurp elected officials and dissolve the legally-elected government is an open fact, as they published it publicly. Your fact-free ideology is what is all in your imagination.
  - momirlan 3y ago
    all rubbish. read this book to educate yourself: https://www.amazon.ca/Hold-Line-story-Freedom-Convoy/dp/1990583032 https://www.amazon.ca/Hold-Line-story-Freedom-Convoy/dp/1990...

itiro 3y ago

Peaceful protests that intentionally meddled with others lives to generate headlines. They could have peacefully protested in a corn field. If that’s what Canada allows, then you’re right about the liberals needing to go so conservative leaders can secure the rule of law and order!