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Calling it slavery isn't to say that the situation is on par with Uyghur camps or Indian laborers in the middle east etc. Just like "I'm dying from this heat" d

Calling it slavery isn't to say that the situation is on par with Uyghur camps or Indian laborers in the middle east etc. Just like "I'm dying from this heat" doesn't actually say that the heat is so severe as to kill you the way it can in some parts of the world. The point is that the system creates a similar sense of entrapment as slavery. The fact that it isn't literal slavery doesn't make it not an exploitative practice worth fixing.

throwaway290 3y ago
"I'm dying from this heat" is okay because dying is something we all do. That phrase would stop being okay if death was something that happens not to you but to poorer people in other countries. See the difference? Comparing your privileged life with really bad events that happen to others makes light of them. There's a reason things like "omg it's like a gas chamber here amirite?" are often frowned upon and Auschwitz is stuff of the past but slavery happens today. Also, sorry but the last part about "similar sense of entrapment", when the worst that can happen is you leave it's not entrapment, actually the opposite of. I myself am on a working visa, yes if I get fired I go home where I'd rather not be, but I'd never have the gall to compare it to literal slavery as long as it's happening...
- dotnet00 3y ago
  Easy to say that when you don't have a family member who is suicidally depressed because they spent 20 years working hard to get through the process, had their green card application process messed up by their employer, have barely lived in their country of origin and have no career prospects there because what they are educated in is not valued there.
  - throwaway290 3y ago
    I have extended family members who lived in war zone in the past couple of years. Somebody just started bombing their city. They had to move. So yeah sorry to hear but it's one of those many sucky situations in life. The lack of options is illusory. Mental issues are mental issues, slavery is slavery, misfortune as a free person is misfortune as a free person. Sounds like grounds to sue for the "messed up" process? If not I assume if whoever it is worked 20 years in the US they have experience that can be valued in many countries. I'd recommended checking around the more reasonable ones like Canada or Australia. As free person can.

throwaway290 3y ago

"I'm dying from this heat" is okay because dying is something we all do. That phrase would stop being okay if death was something that happens not to you but to poorer people in other countries. See the difference? Comparing your privileged life with really bad events that happen to others makes light of them. There's a reason things like "omg it's like a gas chamber here amirite?" are often frowned upon and Auschwitz is stuff of the past but slavery happens today. Also, sorry but the last part about "similar sense of entrapment", when the worst that can happen is you leave it's not entrapment, actually the opposite of. I myself am on a working visa, yes if I get fired I go home where I'd rather not be, but I'd never have the gall to compare it to literal slavery as long as it's happening...

dotnet00 3y ago
Easy to say that when you don't have a family member who is suicidally depressed because they spent 20 years working hard to get through the process, had their green card application process messed up by their employer, have barely lived in their country of origin and have no career prospects there because what they are educated in is not valued there.
- throwaway290 3y ago
  I have extended family members who lived in war zone in the past couple of years. Somebody just started bombing their city. They had to move. So yeah sorry to hear but it's one of those many sucky situations in life. The lack of options is illusory. Mental issues are mental issues, slavery is slavery, misfortune as a free person is misfortune as a free person. Sounds like grounds to sue for the "messed up" process? If not I assume if whoever it is worked 20 years in the US they have experience that can be valued in many countries. I'd recommended checking around the more reasonable ones like Canada or Australia. As free person can.