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H-1B have no leverage and can get in emergency hire situations. This encourages exploitation. Like a slave they might be lucky and have a good master.

by mrits 3y ago

manuelabeledo 3y ago
While I agree that getting fired as a H-1B could end up terribly, I have yet to encounter a single visa holder that's grossly underpaid or mistreated. > Like a slave they might be lucky and have a good master. Can't take this kind of hyperbole seriously.
- mrits 3y ago
  You aren't supposed to take hyperbole literally. I didn't hire H1B workers because I couldn't find Java programmers in the US...
  - manuelabeledo 3y ago
    > You aren't supposed to take hyperbole literally. I didn't say "literally", but "seriously". > I didn't hire H1B workers because I couldn't find Java programmers in the US... You are misdirecting your anger at the program, instead of the abusers, which are never FAANG companies but large IT consultancy corporations like Tata. If your company is hiring H-1B visa holders at a rate way below market, they are committing fraud. Again, not an issue with the visa holders themselves, but your company HR personnel being absolute crooks.
    - mrits 3y ago
      I love the program. You are now accusing me of fraud and being a crook when you clearly don't know the first thing about the system that you yourself took advantage of. Good luck with that attitude.
      - manuelabeledo 3y ago
        I'm not accusing you of being anything. I'm just saying that if your company is hiring visa holders at a rate below market, then they are committing a crime. > ... you clearly don't know the first thing about the system that you yourself took advantage of. Don't make me laugh. Do you really believe that anyone going through several years of dealing with the USCIS knows nothing about visa processes?
mavelikara 3y ago
In the US employees of all nationalities have less leverage than many parts of the world. Healthcare tied to employment, persistent union-busting, at-will employment laws etc.

H-1B have no leverage and can get in emergency hire situations. This encourages exploitation. Like a slave they might be lucky and have a good master.

by mrits 3y ago

H-1B have no leverage and can get in emergency hire situations. This encourages exploitation. Like a slave they might be lucky and have a good master.

manuelabeledo 3y ago

While I agree that getting fired as a H-1B could end up terribly, I have yet to encounter a single visa holder that's grossly underpaid or mistreated. > Like a slave they might be lucky and have a good master. Can't take this kind of hyperbole seriously.

mrits 3y ago
You aren't supposed to take hyperbole literally. I didn't hire H1B workers because I couldn't find Java programmers in the US...
- manuelabeledo 3y ago
  > You aren't supposed to take hyperbole literally. I didn't say "literally", but "seriously". > I didn't hire H1B workers because I couldn't find Java programmers in the US... You are misdirecting your anger at the program, instead of the abusers, which are never FAANG companies but large IT consultancy corporations like Tata. If your company is hiring H-1B visa holders at a rate way below market, they are committing fraud. Again, not an issue with the visa holders themselves, but your company HR personnel being absolute crooks.
  - mrits 3y ago
    I love the program. You are now accusing me of fraud and being a crook when you clearly don't know the first thing about the system that you yourself took advantage of. Good luck with that attitude.
    - manuelabeledo 3y ago
      I'm not accusing you of being anything. I'm just saying that if your company is hiring visa holders at a rate below market, then they are committing a crime. > ... you clearly don't know the first thing about the system that you yourself took advantage of. Don't make me laugh. Do you really believe that anyone going through several years of dealing with the USCIS knows nothing about visa processes?

mavelikara 3y ago

In the US employees of all nationalities have less leverage than many parts of the world. Healthcare tied to employment, persistent union-busting, at-will employment laws etc.