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“Low paid”? I’m an immigrant myself and know how the visa application process works. There are a few mechanisms in place to prevent H-1B holders to receive low
by manuelabeledo 3y ago
“Low paid”?
I’m an immigrant myself and know how the visa application process works. There are a few mechanisms in place to prevent H-1B holders to receive lower wages than their colleagues, first and foremost the PERM, which guarantees similar wages in the same occupation and area of employment.
If Google or anyone else are hiring H-1B visa holders directly, they have to pay them accordingly to their own standards.
Also, visa salaries have to be publicly available. It’s not like they could lie about it.
When people speak of visa holders as “cheap” labour, they probably think of IT consultants hired by Indian companies, which regularly are the worst offenders.
- mrits 3y agoH-1B have no leverage and can get in emergency hire situations. This encourages exploitation. Like a slave they might be lucky and have a good master.
- manuelabeledo 3y agoWhile I agree that getting fired as a H-1B could end up terribly, I have yet to encounter a single visa holder that's grossly underpaid or mistreated. > Like a slave they might be lucky and have a good master. Can't take this kind of hyperbole seriously.
- mrits 3y agoYou aren't supposed to take hyperbole literally. I didn't hire H1B workers because I couldn't find Java programmers in the US...
- manuelabeledo 3y ago> You aren't supposed to take hyperbole literally. I didn't say "literally", but "seriously". > I didn't hire H1B workers because I couldn't find Java programmers in the US... You are misdirecting your anger at the program, instead of the abusers, which are never FAANG companies but large IT consultancy corporations like Tata. If your company is hiring H-1B visa holders at a rate way below market, they are committing fraud. Again, not an issue with the visa holders themselves, but your company HR personnel being absolute crooks.
- mrits 3y agoI love the program. You are now accusing me of fraud and being a crook when you clearly don't know the first thing about the system that you yourself took advantage of. Good luck with that attitude.
- manuelabeledo 3y agoI'm not accusing you of being anything. I'm just saying that if your company is hiring visa holders at a rate below market, then they are committing a crime. > ... you clearly don't know the first thing about the system that you yourself took advantage of. Don't make me laugh. Do you really believe that anyone going through several years of dealing with the USCIS knows nothing about visa processes?
- mavelikara 3y agoIn the US employees of all nationalities have less leverage than many parts of the world. Healthcare tied to employment, persistent union-busting, at-will employment laws etc.
- imwillofficial 3y agoYes low paid. I get paid more than every H1B I know who is a level above me in my role.
- manuelabeledo 3y agoAnd I don't believe that is the case, unless we are talking about hired vs outsourced employees. H-1B salaries are publicly available. If what you say was true, don't you think that a country as notoriously litigious as the US, wouldn't have started a massive class action lawsuit against tech companies a long time ago?
- imwillofficial 3y agoYour logical leaps “something can’t be true because people would sue”, are quite wild.