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Considering the censorship is heavily tilted towards one ideology, what incentive does the opposing ideology have to stop this? It worked perfectly fine with no

Considering the censorship is heavily tilted towards one ideology, what incentive does the opposing ideology have to stop this? It worked perfectly fine with no political capital loss in 2020 and 2022 midterms. In fact, most people within that ideology agree with the tech giants and want more censorship.

di4na 3y ago
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- dang 3y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. Regardless of how right you are or feel you are, it just makes the threads more predictable, and therefore more tedious and nasty. We're trying for the opposite here, to the extent possible. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
vorpalhex 3y ago
What is likely is that the wheels of censorship will do what they always do and censor that other group. Nobody is immune to censorship for long. Hopefully that will cause enough ruckus that we go back to being anti-censorship. Censorship isn't just impacting one group - it's a whole bunch of smaller subgroups that make up both parties. It also hurts the uncensored groups because instead of responding to their opponents they are now just shadowboxing themselves in a corner.
- dmix 3y ago
  Was the targeting of Twitter, FB, and YouTube hitting broadly across ideologies and groups? Twitter files released tons of raw emails by gov agency staff with lists of profiles and it was pretty clear whom the executive/federal gov and Twitter's own staff had a hard on for. Its possible it's merely a result of the current administration being in power and yes the risk to everyone is very apparent, but the people fighting the hardest against censorship vs those pushing hardcore social media moderation and top down wrongthink regulation has long had an obvious political divisions in America and here in Canada... For the past decade. The UK and other EU countries is probably more "equally censor everything influential groups don't like" though so the divide is not universal.
hackyhacky 3y ago
> censorship is heavily tilted towards one ideology This is the craziest thing I've read all day.
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redeux 3y ago
> most people within that ideology agree with the tech giants and want more censorship. I assume you’re talking about the right, since the left keeps talking about using antitrust to break up big tech.
callalex 3y ago
It is seriously unclear to me what ideology you think is promoting censorship the most, from my perspective the cat got out of the bag in the USA and now different kinds of censorship are being advocated for across the political spectrum.
- pauldenton 3y ago
  https://www.axios.com/2021/01/09/platforms-social-media-ban-restrict-trump https://www.axios.com/2021/01/09/platforms-social-media-ban-... Find me the list of social media platforms that banned Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden

di4na 3y ago

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dang 3y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. Regardless of how right you are or feel you are, it just makes the threads more predictable, and therefore more tedious and nasty. We're trying for the opposite here, to the extent possible. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

vorpalhex 3y ago

What is likely is that the wheels of censorship will do what they always do and censor that other group. Nobody is immune to censorship for long. Hopefully that will cause enough ruckus that we go back to being anti-censorship. Censorship isn't just impacting one group - it's a whole bunch of smaller subgroups that make up both parties. It also hurts the uncensored groups because instead of responding to their opponents they are now just shadowboxing themselves in a corner.

dmix 3y ago
Was the targeting of Twitter, FB, and YouTube hitting broadly across ideologies and groups? Twitter files released tons of raw emails by gov agency staff with lists of profiles and it was pretty clear whom the executive/federal gov and Twitter's own staff had a hard on for. Its possible it's merely a result of the current administration being in power and yes the risk to everyone is very apparent, but the people fighting the hardest against censorship vs those pushing hardcore social media moderation and top down wrongthink regulation has long had an obvious political divisions in America and here in Canada... For the past decade. The UK and other EU countries is probably more "equally censor everything influential groups don't like" though so the divide is not universal.

hackyhacky 3y ago

> censorship is heavily tilted towards one ideology This is the craziest thing I've read all day.

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redeux 3y ago

> most people within that ideology agree with the tech giants and want more censorship. I assume you’re talking about the right, since the left keeps talking about using antitrust to break up big tech.

callalex 3y ago

It is seriously unclear to me what ideology you think is promoting censorship the most, from my perspective the cat got out of the bag in the USA and now different kinds of censorship are being advocated for across the political spectrum.

pauldenton 3y ago
https://www.axios.com/2021/01/09/platforms-social-media-ban-restrict-trump https://www.axios.com/2021/01/09/platforms-social-media-ban-... Find me the list of social media platforms that banned Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden