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After reading this, I'm not sure if Google are on my side.

by baz00 3y ago

BLKNSLVR 3y ago
It's pretty clear: they're not.
ur-whale 3y ago
>After reading this, I'm not sure if Google are on my side. Google stopped being on your side a very long time ago
- Try1275 3y ago
  on our side
_Algernon_ 3y ago
Corporations are never on your side. At best their goals are temporarily aligned with yours, but it is always fleeting.
- baz00 3y ago
  Not always. Some of them still value customers and are at least attempting to go in the correct direction for society. This one, not so much.
  - developer93 3y ago
    It seems like lots start off like that but it never lasts. I think it's an effect of having shareholders: it all boils down to money in the end
    - wredue 3y ago
      The moment a company begins their push for IPO is the very moment the enshitification and anti-user bullshit starts. Every once in a while, those corporations are held to task by other non-public entities, but as soon as they drive the non-public out, enshitification begins.
- CatWChainsaw 3y ago
  'Corporations don't want money. They want all the money - all of it, all of the time.'
gretch 3y ago
They aren’t on your side, but don’t make the mistake of thinking there’s 2 sides and 1 must be on your side. We’ve seen governments around the world not be on the people’s side many time (for UK specially, see brexit)
- petre 3y ago
  > We’ve seen governments around the world not be on the people’s side many time (for UK specially, see brexit) What do you mean? People voted for Brexit. Boris and his government delivered it. What would you rather like them do, a press release in the lines of "Oh, forget it, it was just one of Nigel's dumb ideas and we were daft enough to ask" after the vote?
  - gretch 3y ago
    Certainly not after the vote. The is a violation of democracy. But it they didn't have to propose it. And they didn't have to advertise it. And it would be one thing if all sides earnestly believed the benefits - instead better members of the party should have checked the dumb ideas (this is the point of parties)
    - petre 3y ago
      Well, they advertised and proposed it rather than losing votes (quite a predictable party move, Nigel knew that too). I'm pretty sure Cameron believed it would never pass. But it did. That's why he quit afterwards. It was one of those "oh shit" moments.
  - baz00 3y ago
    If you think that’s how it worked then you’re as naive as the voters who were manipulated.

After reading this, I'm not sure if Google are on my side.

by baz00 3y ago

After reading this, I'm not sure if Google are on my side.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

It's pretty clear: they're not.

ur-whale 3y ago

>After reading this, I'm not sure if Google are on my side. Google stopped being on your side a very long time ago

Try1275 3y ago
on our side

_Algernon_ 3y ago

Corporations are never on your side. At best their goals are temporarily aligned with yours, but it is always fleeting.

baz00 3y ago
Not always. Some of them still value customers and are at least attempting to go in the correct direction for society. This one, not so much.
- developer93 3y ago
  It seems like lots start off like that but it never lasts. I think it's an effect of having shareholders: it all boils down to money in the end
  - wredue 3y ago
    The moment a company begins their push for IPO is the very moment the enshitification and anti-user bullshit starts. Every once in a while, those corporations are held to task by other non-public entities, but as soon as they drive the non-public out, enshitification begins.
CatWChainsaw 3y ago
'Corporations don't want money. They want all the money - all of it, all of the time.'

gretch 3y ago

They aren’t on your side, but don’t make the mistake of thinking there’s 2 sides and 1 must be on your side. We’ve seen governments around the world not be on the people’s side many time (for UK specially, see brexit)

petre 3y ago
> We’ve seen governments around the world not be on the people’s side many time (for UK specially, see brexit) What do you mean? People voted for Brexit. Boris and his government delivered it. What would you rather like them do, a press release in the lines of "Oh, forget it, it was just one of Nigel's dumb ideas and we were daft enough to ask" after the vote?
- gretch 3y ago
  Certainly not after the vote. The is a violation of democracy. But it they didn't have to propose it. And they didn't have to advertise it. And it would be one thing if all sides earnestly believed the benefits - instead better members of the party should have checked the dumb ideas (this is the point of parties)
  - petre 3y ago
    Well, they advertised and proposed it rather than losing votes (quite a predictable party move, Nigel knew that too). I'm pretty sure Cameron believed it would never pass. But it did. That's why he quit afterwards. It was one of those "oh shit" moments.
- baz00 3y ago
  If you think that’s how it worked then you’re as naive as the voters who were manipulated.