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I was talking with some of my Swedish friends the other day and we were both marveling that it is not a requirement to put caffeine amounts on American beverage

I was talking with some of my Swedish friends the other day and we were both marveling that it is not a requirement to put caffeine amounts on American beverages. I get that sometimes it can be hard to measure but that is not a problem for energy drinks, and for when it is a problem just slap an (estimated) label on there. Given how powerfully it affects people (an extra 40 mg at the wrong time for me can cause me to be awake for more hours at a time) it feels insane that I have to look this up

Obscurity4340 3y ago
Its just as silly there's no nutrition info on most off-the-shelf alcoholic beverage containers.
- rapnie 3y ago
  Like wine, which is apparently full of all kinds of additives.
  - dagw 3y ago
    Like wine, which is apparently full of all kinds of additives. Some wines are, some aren't. The problem is it requires a lot of research to find out which is which. The fact that the EU has let itself be bullied by the alcohol lobby to not put ingredient and nutritional information on alcoholic beverages is truly shameful.
- Symbiote 3y ago
  This seems to be gradually changing in the EU. Although it's not required, according to [1] 95% of canned or bottled beer sold in the EU now includes the ingredients, 88% the energy, though I can't see a figure for full nutrition labelling. I see ingredient and energy labels on all the Danish-brewed beers I have, but only the ingredients on a couple of others. A non-alcoholic beer, of course, has the full nutrition information as it isn't exempt. https://beerwisdom.eu/ https://beerwisdom.eu/
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
    It feels like this lack of proper labeling on alcoholic beverages has also contributed to the explosion of popularity of alcoholic seltzers like white claw in the States as well. The cans are exactly 100 calories (easy to count), say specifically how much carbs they have for keto and have the full nutrition facts label. Some of the beers in the States have started putting calorie counts on their beer cans when they are specifically marketing to health conscious consumers (Michelob Ultra is an example) but it remains the exception rather than the norm. And why should it be up to the companies? It’s something you’re consuming, why not require nutrition facts like any other food or drink?

Obscurity4340 3y ago

Its just as silly there's no nutrition info on most off-the-shelf alcoholic beverage containers.

rapnie 3y ago
Like wine, which is apparently full of all kinds of additives.
- dagw 3y ago
  Like wine, which is apparently full of all kinds of additives. Some wines are, some aren't. The problem is it requires a lot of research to find out which is which. The fact that the EU has let itself be bullied by the alcohol lobby to not put ingredient and nutritional information on alcoholic beverages is truly shameful.
Symbiote 3y ago
This seems to be gradually changing in the EU. Although it's not required, according to [1] 95% of canned or bottled beer sold in the EU now includes the ingredients, 88% the energy, though I can't see a figure for full nutrition labelling. I see ingredient and energy labels on all the Danish-brewed beers I have, but only the ingredients on a couple of others. A non-alcoholic beer, of course, has the full nutrition information as it isn't exempt. https://beerwisdom.eu/ https://beerwisdom.eu/
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
  It feels like this lack of proper labeling on alcoholic beverages has also contributed to the explosion of popularity of alcoholic seltzers like white claw in the States as well. The cans are exactly 100 calories (easy to count), say specifically how much carbs they have for keto and have the full nutrition facts label. Some of the beers in the States have started putting calorie counts on their beer cans when they are specifically marketing to health conscious consumers (Michelob Ultra is an example) but it remains the exception rather than the norm. And why should it be up to the companies? It’s something you’re consuming, why not require nutrition facts like any other food or drink?