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I went in there looking because of the amazing notion that car makers grant themselves the right to gather and divulge information related to (quote) your "sex

I went in there looking because of the amazing notion that car makers grant themselves the right to gather and divulge information related to (quote) your "sex life". And indeed KIA wins the Internet of Creeps with the aforementied explicitly included in the data they somehow (how?) aim to gather and distribute to the winds. https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/kia/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/kia/ Genetic information is also included, but come on, does a KIA steering wheel suck up your sweat and send it to an hidden PCR machine??? I think the people at KIA who wrote that "cover our arses" legalese going through every piece of data they could possibly at one time gather needs to factor in the cost of some customers, me included, never ever getting a KIA. Anyways as I understand they are extremely easy to steal, looks like a failing brand won't be able to get parts (or private parts) for long.

Nereuxofficial 3y ago
Maybe because people may have sex in their car. But yeah it is incredibly creepy how much data these companies collect
- dividedbyzero 3y ago
  Pregnancies should be fairly straightforward to detect and are hugely valuable info for marketing.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    Look at bright side: when car detects that you're knocked up, it can automatically route you to nearest abortion provider. No tech company will dare to track you there! https://www.reuters.com/world/us/google-delete-location-history-visits-abortion-clinics-2022-07-01/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/google-delete-location-hist...
    - thsksbd 3y ago
      I think sarcasm is tone Id use in this case, but you do have a valid point.
    - acdha 3y ago
      On a less jokey tone, it’s really not a stretch to imagine someone like a Texas AG filing subpoenas demanding cell providers, cars with data services, etc. identify customers in their state who stopped near clinics in adjacent free states. I’m actually a little surprised that hadn’t already happened.
passwordoops 3y ago
>Genetic information is also included, but come on, does a KIA steering wheel suck up your sweat and send it to an hidden PCR machine??? Might be CYA, but I suspect it's more like "If we hit up 23andMe (who definitely sells deidentified genetic data and in all likelihood also sells the same tracking info from using their site as everyone else) maybe we have enough inference to figure out your generic makeup." Even on an intellectual level, I'm curious if this can be done. So yeah, pretty sure Kia's data science team is more than encouraged to crack that code
ryukoposting 3y ago
To be fair, a customer discerning enough to read the privacy policy probably isn't considering a brand with a reputation as dubious as KIA (at least in the USA).

Nereuxofficial 3y ago

Maybe because people may have sex in their car. But yeah it is incredibly creepy how much data these companies collect

dividedbyzero 3y ago
Pregnancies should be fairly straightforward to detect and are hugely valuable info for marketing.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  Look at bright side: when car detects that you're knocked up, it can automatically route you to nearest abortion provider. No tech company will dare to track you there! https://www.reuters.com/world/us/google-delete-location-history-visits-abortion-clinics-2022-07-01/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/google-delete-location-hist...
  - thsksbd 3y ago
    I think sarcasm is tone Id use in this case, but you do have a valid point.
  - acdha 3y ago
    On a less jokey tone, it’s really not a stretch to imagine someone like a Texas AG filing subpoenas demanding cell providers, cars with data services, etc. identify customers in their state who stopped near clinics in adjacent free states. I’m actually a little surprised that hadn’t already happened.

passwordoops 3y ago

>Genetic information is also included, but come on, does a KIA steering wheel suck up your sweat and send it to an hidden PCR machine??? Might be CYA, but I suspect it's more like "If we hit up 23andMe (who definitely sells deidentified genetic data and in all likelihood also sells the same tracking info from using their site as everyone else) maybe we have enough inference to figure out your generic makeup." Even on an intellectual level, I'm curious if this can be done. So yeah, pretty sure Kia's data science team is more than encouraged to crack that code

ryukoposting 3y ago

To be fair, a customer discerning enough to read the privacy policy probably isn't considering a brand with a reputation as dubious as KIA (at least in the USA).