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Strange what you find amusing. Not sure why you downplay climate change. It is one of the biggest challenges for many generations, that's a fact.

DoreenMichele 3y ago
A. I'm not downplaying climate change. B. Perhaps you've heard of World War II? Or the Cold War? Both were threats to the survival of mankind at least as much as climate change, perhaps more so.
- razemio 3y ago
  A. you sure did B. Can you stay on topic please? That is the second topic you bring up without anyone asking. Funny enough, you downplayed climate change again.
  - DoreenMichele 3y ago
    Nope. What's extremely "funny" in some sense of that word is that elsewhere on HN I am discussing climate change and environmental issues in earnest and it hasn't gotten one tenth the attention this has gotten, which is proof positive of my point: people have big feels about the topic and vent a lot about it but don't want to really engage constructively with it anywhere near as much. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37443229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37443229
  - jskrablin 3y ago
    I'd say that the Cold War had a far bigger potential to end the humanity than climate change currently has. It's a well known fact that we were on a brink of nuclear confrontation more than once during that period.
  - darkerside 3y ago
    Buddy, you are upset that poster isn't engaging with you on climate change in a thread about a comet. What gives you the right to dictate the narrative? How about you both talk about what you want to talk about?
    - razemio 3y ago
      "Dude", whataboutism is a thing and to my opinion it is extremely annoying. You do not need to agree with me, but I will certainly point it out to someone constantly doing it. If you notice, I haven't till he did a second time in a matter of minutes.
      - DoreenMichele 3y ago
        I haven't till he did a second time in a matter of minutes. FYI, I'm a woman. It's my policy to generally not correct people who misgender me on HN, but in this case I will note it and suggest that perhaps your powers of observation aren't the best. Someone mentioned existential dread, which also really has nothing to do with anything "on topic." I commented on that about finding it sort of funny. Lots of people felt some need to reply to my comment when most of my comments get very little engagement. I wish my more serious comments got more meaty engagement. This whole thing strikes me as a ridiculous overeaction.
        razemio 3y ago
        I am sorry for not using the correct gender, which is obviously an error on my part. It is not correct to asume anything and it seriously hurts the conversation. Sometimes I whish we had a gender neutral language. It would make things fair. You initial comment wasn't serious? You are somewhat confusing to talk to. Let's end this and agree to disagree.
        DoreenMichele 3y ago
        No, it's completely serious. I seriously find it amusing. It's just not anything that merits some giant pile-on of pushback from HN that makes it sound like I'm some extremely famous and influential environmental activist who just pulled a William Shatner and laughed in the face of my core audience on SNL and told them to "get lives" and "worry about something more important." To me, this is like "Woah, dude. HN is histrionic here. Wow."
      - darkerside 3y ago
- raincole 3y ago
  WWII wasn't a threat to the survival of mankind. It physically couldn't end humanity. At worse it's was thread to the survival of democracy.
  - DoreenMichele 3y ago
    That sounds to me like the people who act like Y2K was never a serious threat because it got solved. They invented the atom bomb during WW2 and dropped it on two cities in Japan to get Japan to give up its stubborn refusal to surrender. Some Japanese soldiers hid in caves and devotedly didn't surrender for decades afterwards.
    - raincole 3y ago
      Yes and none of this was the end of humanity. Not even remotely close (until countries started piling up nukes, but that happened after WWII). > Some Japanese soldiers hid in caves and devotedly didn't surrender for decades afterwards. Yes, and they killed several innocent citizens in Phillipines. It was a tragic. In the meanwhile Japan's economics blossomed and average Japanese people enjoyed much better life quality than pre-WWII under a militarism government. If you take a look at the history of China's population, you can hardly tell when WWII happened[1]. Hope this put things in perspective. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_China#/media/File:China_population_growth.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_China#/m...

DoreenMichele 3y ago

A. I'm not downplaying climate change. B. Perhaps you've heard of World War II? Or the Cold War? Both were threats to the survival of mankind at least as much as climate change, perhaps more so.

razemio 3y ago
A. you sure did B. Can you stay on topic please? That is the second topic you bring up without anyone asking. Funny enough, you downplayed climate change again.
- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  Nope. What's extremely "funny" in some sense of that word is that elsewhere on HN I am discussing climate change and environmental issues in earnest and it hasn't gotten one tenth the attention this has gotten, which is proof positive of my point: people have big feels about the topic and vent a lot about it but don't want to really engage constructively with it anywhere near as much. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37443229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37443229
- jskrablin 3y ago
  I'd say that the Cold War had a far bigger potential to end the humanity than climate change currently has. It's a well known fact that we were on a brink of nuclear confrontation more than once during that period.
- darkerside 3y ago
  Buddy, you are upset that poster isn't engaging with you on climate change in a thread about a comet. What gives you the right to dictate the narrative? How about you both talk about what you want to talk about?
  - razemio 3y ago
    "Dude", whataboutism is a thing and to my opinion it is extremely annoying. You do not need to agree with me, but I will certainly point it out to someone constantly doing it. If you notice, I haven't till he did a second time in a matter of minutes.
    - DoreenMichele 3y ago
      I haven't till he did a second time in a matter of minutes. FYI, I'm a woman. It's my policy to generally not correct people who misgender me on HN, but in this case I will note it and suggest that perhaps your powers of observation aren't the best. Someone mentioned existential dread, which also really has nothing to do with anything "on topic." I commented on that about finding it sort of funny. Lots of people felt some need to reply to my comment when most of my comments get very little engagement. I wish my more serious comments got more meaty engagement. This whole thing strikes me as a ridiculous overeaction.
      - razemio 3y ago
        I am sorry for not using the correct gender, which is obviously an error on my part. It is not correct to asume anything and it seriously hurts the conversation. Sometimes I whish we had a gender neutral language. It would make things fair. You initial comment wasn't serious? You are somewhat confusing to talk to. Let's end this and agree to disagree.
        DoreenMichele 3y ago
        No, it's completely serious. I seriously find it amusing. It's just not anything that merits some giant pile-on of pushback from HN that makes it sound like I'm some extremely famous and influential environmental activist who just pulled a William Shatner and laughed in the face of my core audience on SNL and told them to "get lives" and "worry about something more important." To me, this is like "Woah, dude. HN is histrionic here. Wow."
    - darkerside 3y ago
raincole 3y ago
WWII wasn't a threat to the survival of mankind. It physically couldn't end humanity. At worse it's was thread to the survival of democracy.
- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  That sounds to me like the people who act like Y2K was never a serious threat because it got solved. They invented the atom bomb during WW2 and dropped it on two cities in Japan to get Japan to give up its stubborn refusal to surrender. Some Japanese soldiers hid in caves and devotedly didn't surrender for decades afterwards.
  - raincole 3y ago
    Yes and none of this was the end of humanity. Not even remotely close (until countries started piling up nukes, but that happened after WWII). > Some Japanese soldiers hid in caves and devotedly didn't surrender for decades afterwards. Yes, and they killed several innocent citizens in Phillipines. It was a tragic. In the meanwhile Japan's economics blossomed and average Japanese people enjoyed much better life quality than pre-WWII under a militarism government. If you take a look at the history of China's population, you can hardly tell when WWII happened[1]. Hope this put things in perspective. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_China#/media/File:China_population_growth.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_China#/m...