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> return-to-work rule I couldn’t imagine some interpreting it that literally. A quick google search between the two, they’re virtually synonymous.

doktorhladnjak 3y ago
It seems pretty revealing to how some people view work from home not being actual work
- newshackr 3y ago
  Work is a pretty common term for the office. For instance, Google maps lets you set your "work" location.
  - mlyle 3y ago
    Sure. But whether you spin it as "return to work" [as if you weren't doing something/somewhere that could be considered "work" before] or "return to office" is likely to be revealing as to your mindset about the whole thing. Language has connotations that influence how we interpret others' arguments.
  - ozim 3y ago
    If you would be visiting customer site where you were also working, would you tell customer "Hey nice meeting with you I am going back to work"?
    - bdangubic 3y ago
      Yes, absolutely. I don’t think I have once in my life said “I am going back to the office”
      - modriano 3y ago
        That's wild. I must have said "I am going back to the office" organically hundreds of times. For example, if I went to lunch with a colleague and had to get back to the office for a meeting or to get back to my computer. Or if I was at an off-site meeting that just ended and I was going to trek back to the office. I don't say it much anymore, as WFH has cut all this needless commuting from my life, but I use to say that constantly.
  - modriano 3y ago
    But here, where people are already working from home, saying these already-working people are violating the "return-to-work" order is just fundamentally disrespectful of the work people were already doing. It makes sense why those workers would seek to form a union; it sounds like management is really belittling their work, even through the language they feed to the press.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    Which is based from "work" predominantly being done in offices and factories and such. In the era of increasing "working from home" and working remotely from cafes and elsewhere, mixing the two is an anachronism that should stop. It also diminishes WFH.
jimjambw 3y ago
They shouldn't be. I don't see them as synonymous.
CapstanRoller 3y ago
It's propaganda language, designed to mislead. It associates work with offices and implies WFH isn't 'real' work.
ozim 3y ago
I'd say in this context distinction makes difference. You also would not say "I am going back to work" when you were sales person visiting customer, you would say "I am going back to office". You would say "I am going back to work" when you would be on a lunch break as much as you would say "I am going back to office". In work-from-home situation I see only "I am going back to office" as correct statement. With all implications of "going back to work" pointing out you are not "working" at moment you are talking.
catchnear4321 3y ago
conscious interpretation by individuals isn’t nearly as valuable as repeat exposure to masses. it works better if you don’t stop and think about it. definitely works better if you don’t search about it.

doktorhladnjak 3y ago

It seems pretty revealing to how some people view work from home not being actual work

newshackr 3y ago
Work is a pretty common term for the office. For instance, Google maps lets you set your "work" location.
- mlyle 3y ago
  Sure. But whether you spin it as "return to work" [as if you weren't doing something/somewhere that could be considered "work" before] or "return to office" is likely to be revealing as to your mindset about the whole thing. Language has connotations that influence how we interpret others' arguments.
- ozim 3y ago
  If you would be visiting customer site where you were also working, would you tell customer "Hey nice meeting with you I am going back to work"?
  - bdangubic 3y ago
    Yes, absolutely. I don’t think I have once in my life said “I am going back to the office”
    - modriano 3y ago
      That's wild. I must have said "I am going back to the office" organically hundreds of times. For example, if I went to lunch with a colleague and had to get back to the office for a meeting or to get back to my computer. Or if I was at an off-site meeting that just ended and I was going to trek back to the office. I don't say it much anymore, as WFH has cut all this needless commuting from my life, but I use to say that constantly.
- modriano 3y ago
  But here, where people are already working from home, saying these already-working people are violating the "return-to-work" order is just fundamentally disrespectful of the work people were already doing. It makes sense why those workers would seek to form a union; it sounds like management is really belittling their work, even through the language they feed to the press.
- coldtea 3y ago
  Which is based from "work" predominantly being done in offices and factories and such. In the era of increasing "working from home" and working remotely from cafes and elsewhere, mixing the two is an anachronism that should stop. It also diminishes WFH.

jimjambw 3y ago

They shouldn't be. I don't see them as synonymous.

CapstanRoller 3y ago

It's propaganda language, designed to mislead. It associates work with offices and implies WFH isn't 'real' work.

ozim 3y ago

I'd say in this context distinction makes difference. You also would not say "I am going back to work" when you were sales person visiting customer, you would say "I am going back to office". You would say "I am going back to work" when you would be on a lunch break as much as you would say "I am going back to office". In work-from-home situation I see only "I am going back to office" as correct statement. With all implications of "going back to work" pointing out you are not "working" at moment you are talking.

catchnear4321 3y ago

conscious interpretation by individuals isn’t nearly as valuable as repeat exposure to masses. it works better if you don’t stop and think about it. definitely works better if you don’t search about it.