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So how do I find fonts that have 0s with a dot in the middle? > filters are now easier to reach and sectioned out meaningfully "Technology" is not a meaningfu

by eviks 3y ago

So how do I find fonts that have 0s with a dot in the middle? > filters are now easier to reach and sectioned out meaningfully "Technology" is not a meaningful section, and in general having section taking more space than its content of just a single item doesn't help

vladstudio 3y ago
You could scroll through https://fonts.google.com/?preview.text=0&preview.text_type=custom&classification=Monospace https://fonts.google.com/?preview.text=0&preview.text_type=c...
- eviks 3y ago
  No you couldn't, a font can have different styles. That's what databases and querying them is designed for
mortenjorck 3y ago
This is a long-running a shortcoming of Google Fonts, and as much as this is a welcome UI upgrade, it unfortunately does nothing to address the paltry set of tags that have passed for a taxonomy since Google Fonts’ inception. It’s a particular shame given what a truly rich typographic library Google Fonts has grown to be: transitional and oldstyle serifs, didones, humanist sans, geometric sans, grotesks, even frakturs… all of this is flattened into an MS Word-caliber set of classifications that still calls script display types “handwriting” fonts.
aragonite 3y ago
Not saying this applies to your situation, but I'm always slightly amused when I hear tech-oriented people say "this font would be perfect for me except for this ONE deal breaker" (often but not always the problem of insufficient differentiation of 0 and O). It's pretty trivial to modify fonts! Just download FontForge, open the font file, navigate to the code point in question, and simple operations like adding a dot or bar is usually pretty easy to figure out. I have some proportional fonts that are perfect for some use cases except that they don't display block characters correctly and/or their digit characters are not of uniform width, and I fixed that by copy pasting from the corresponding code points from monospace fonts.
- eviks 3y ago
  Good point, though bugs can easily creep in with such simple edits: in your copy&paste monospaced digits example you lose the ability to have both monospaced and proportional digits via a stylistic flag (and those are useful: use monospaced in tables, use proportional digits in text) Also it's many files, not just one (though hopefully variadic fonts will catch on), so unfortunately patching fonts is a bit more complicated :( (but if it's literally close to just one thing, that it could still be worth it)
- asu_thomas 3y ago
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RobotToaster 3y ago
Same issue with finding fonts that have ligatures.
brycewray 3y ago
Since you're allowed to add your own sample text, I always use something like this: efficient, effluent eggs 3690 Il1 GQ To AV Va Yo ... which shows ligatures (if any), old-style numerals (if any), descenders, the zero in a code font, differentiation among similar-looking characters, and familiar kerning pairs (if any).
- eviks 3y ago
  That's a poor workaround since many good fonts have alternative styles for such things, and these wouldn't show up
eviks 3y ago
and just discovered another joke of a search from a search giant helping me "find what you’re looking for" You can't find Source Code Pro with any of the 3 Decorative stroke flagged even though that's supposed to be an exhaustive list (serif, no serif, slab serif)

by eviks 3y ago

vladstudio 3y ago

You could scroll through https://fonts.google.com/?preview.text=0&preview.text_type=custom&classification=Monospace https://fonts.google.com/?preview.text=0&preview.text_type=c...

eviks 3y ago
No you couldn't, a font can have different styles. That's what databases and querying them is designed for

mortenjorck 3y ago

This is a long-running a shortcoming of Google Fonts, and as much as this is a welcome UI upgrade, it unfortunately does nothing to address the paltry set of tags that have passed for a taxonomy since Google Fonts’ inception. It’s a particular shame given what a truly rich typographic library Google Fonts has grown to be: transitional and oldstyle serifs, didones, humanist sans, geometric sans, grotesks, even frakturs… all of this is flattened into an MS Word-caliber set of classifications that still calls script display types “handwriting” fonts.

aragonite 3y ago

Not saying this applies to your situation, but I'm always slightly amused when I hear tech-oriented people say "this font would be perfect for me except for this ONE deal breaker" (often but not always the problem of insufficient differentiation of 0 and O). It's pretty trivial to modify fonts! Just download FontForge, open the font file, navigate to the code point in question, and simple operations like adding a dot or bar is usually pretty easy to figure out. I have some proportional fonts that are perfect for some use cases except that they don't display block characters correctly and/or their digit characters are not of uniform width, and I fixed that by copy pasting from the corresponding code points from monospace fonts.

eviks 3y ago
Good point, though bugs can easily creep in with such simple edits: in your copy&paste monospaced digits example you lose the ability to have both monospaced and proportional digits via a stylistic flag (and those are useful: use monospaced in tables, use proportional digits in text) Also it's many files, not just one (though hopefully variadic fonts will catch on), so unfortunately patching fonts is a bit more complicated :( (but if it's literally close to just one thing, that it could still be worth it)
asu_thomas 3y ago
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RobotToaster 3y ago

Same issue with finding fonts that have ligatures.

brycewray 3y ago

Since you're allowed to add your own sample text, I always use something like this: efficient, effluent eggs 3690 Il1 GQ To AV Va Yo ... which shows ligatures (if any), old-style numerals (if any), descenders, the zero in a code font, differentiation among similar-looking characters, and familiar kerning pairs (if any).

eviks 3y ago
That's a poor workaround since many good fonts have alternative styles for such things, and these wouldn't show up

eviks 3y ago

and just discovered another joke of a search from a search giant helping me "find what you’re looking for" You can't find Source Code Pro with any of the 3 Decorative stroke flagged even though that's supposed to be an exhaustive list (serif, no serif, slab serif)