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The headline seems incorrect: it's a return-to-office rule, not a return-to-work rule. The employees were already working.
by djur 3y ago
The headline seems incorrect: it's a return-to-office rule, not a return-to-work rule. The employees were already working.
- pipeline_peak 3y ago> return-to-work rule I couldn’t imagine some interpreting it that literally. A quick google search between the two, they’re virtually synonymous.
- doktorhladnjak 3y agoIt seems pretty revealing to how some people view work from home not being actual work
- newshackr 3y agoWork is a pretty common term for the office. For instance, Google maps lets you set your "work" location.
- mlyle 3y agoSure. But whether you spin it as "return to work" [as if you weren't doing something/somewhere that could be considered "work" before] or "return to office" is likely to be revealing as to your mindset about the whole thing. Language has connotations that influence how we interpret others' arguments.
- ozim 3y agoIf you would be visiting customer site where you were also working, would you tell customer "Hey nice meeting with you I am going back to work"?
- bdangubic 3y agoYes, absolutely. I don’t think I have once in my life said “I am going back to the office”
- modriano 3y agoThat's wild. I must have said "I am going back to the office" organically hundreds of times. For example, if I went to lunch with a colleague and had to get back to the office for a meeting or to get back to my computer. Or if I was at an off-site meeting that just ended and I was going to trek back to the office. I don't say it much anymore, as WFH has cut all this needless commuting from my life, but I use to say that constantly.
- modriano 3y agoBut here, where people are already working from home, saying these already-working people are violating the "return-to-work" order is just fundamentally disrespectful of the work people were already doing. It makes sense why those workers would seek to form a union; it sounds like management is really belittling their work, even through the language they feed to the press.
- coldtea 3y agoWhich is based from "work" predominantly being done in offices and factories and such. In the era of increasing "working from home" and working remotely from cafes and elsewhere, mixing the two is an anachronism that should stop. It also diminishes WFH.
- jimjambw 3y agoThey shouldn't be. I don't see them as synonymous.
- CapstanRoller 3y agoIt's propaganda language, designed to mislead. It associates work with offices and implies WFH isn't 'real' work.
- ozim 3y agoI'd say in this context distinction makes difference. You also would not say "I am going back to work" when you were sales person visiting customer, you would say "I am going back to office". You would say "I am going back to work" when you would be on a lunch break as much as you would say "I am going back to office". In work-from-home situation I see only "I am going back to office" as correct statement. With all implications of "going back to work" pointing out you are not "working" at moment you are talking.
- catchnear4321 3y agoconscious interpretation by individuals isn’t nearly as valuable as repeat exposure to masses. it works better if you don’t stop and think about it. definitely works better if you don’t search about it.
- DoreenMichele 3y agoI had no problem understanding it as meaning the end of work-from-home. Some people readily interpret the word "work" as a place, not an activity.
- coldtea 3y agoThe correct wording however "return to office", even if we're smart enough to deduce the meaning from the dumb wording, and even if for historical reasons (work being outside the home predominantly) people just used the two terms interchangeably. In the era of increased WFH (and during 2020-2021 even mandatory WFH) conflating the two terms is an anachronism - and in this case, it's also a subtle weasel wording to diminish WFH.
- DoreenMichele 3y agoAs a former homemaker, I generally find it offensive that "work" means paid work and "women's work" is routinely implicitly devalued as not really work. But you do you. We all have our bugaboos.
- Kinrany 3y agoI don't see how attacking the "remote work is work" side of the debate vs "only office work is work" helps promoting "unpaid work is work".
- DoreenMichele 3y agoI don't know what your point is, at all, though I'm not at all surprised that my observation above is being dismissed out of hand as not worth mentioning or something. In fact, I fully expected it, though not quite this fast.
- coldtea 3y agoAttempts to divert discussions into not related issues are usually met with people dismissing them. We were discussing the "return to work" vs "return to office" thing. Nobody mentioned anything about house maintenance being "women's work" or dismissed its importance before you brought it up accusing us of that. If anything, in your first comment you dimissed the protesting about the title's "return to work" muddying the waters to make even paid work as something that only happens in an office.
- redhale 3y agoWhat's weird is that ONLY the headline is wrong. Each time it is referenced as "return-to-office" in the article itself. Curious.
- johnnyanmac 3y agojust one more reason to always keep in mind that it's rarely the author (in larger sites) that makes the titles for their articles.