> I guess I’ve always viewed it from the standpoint of, at what speed are crashes rarer and most survivable They're most rare at 0 mph. In fact, they're so rar

> I guess I’ve always viewed it from the standpoint of, at what speed are crashes rarer and most survivable They're most rare at 0 mph. In fact, they're so rare to be impossible. Once you've accepted non-zero speeds (including walking), you've also accepted some level of risk. We're just arguing about what level of risk is acceptable.