> As we go into winter, we'll switch to a tariff which does cheap overnight charging so we can arbitrage on cost. "As we go into winter, we will leverage the s

> As we go into winter, we'll switch to a tariff which does cheap overnight charging so we can arbitrage on cost. "As we go into winter, we will leverage the super cheap battery poor folks are forced to pay to exist for us when it's convenient". It's very hard to take these arguments seriously when that is really what is happening - relatively well off folks using the commons to subsidize themselves whilst patting themselves on the back about it. Yes, it's a quite trivial problem when you get to outsource the hard bit of it and only have to pay for the low hanging profitable fruit. Until your community battery gets into the weeks to month in storage capacity, these anecdotes really read disingenuous to me. Seasonal storage is the hard nut to crack, and we haven't even solved overnight storage for most places. I've been spec'ing out truly off-grid designs lately, and it's an order of magnitude difference if you want to not use the public subsidy of your neighbors paying for it for you.