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I mean... They pay off literally every single lawmaker, to make sure that you will pay them for doing your taxes. If you had any respect for them at any time,

I mean... They pay off literally every single lawmaker, to make sure that you will pay them for doing your taxes. If you had any respect for them at any time, you probably shouldn't have. The level of corruption that they support is stunningly humongous. And even if you're using your "local tax person" - you're likely to be still making them money... as many CPAs use Intuit's software.

harikb 3y ago
My tax guy uses Intuit Software as well. And I pay him 10x the cost of Turbo Tax. But I pay him for expertise / peace of mind. Intuit can fleece me all they want. Give me non-BS advanced features and I will gladly pay way more. Just don't trick my mom & dad. But I guess they need to make their money from the masses.
- JAlexoid 3y ago
  Let's be real - us paying them $4000 per year isn't going to make them money. Tricking your parents into paying for things that they don't even need - that's where the money is. Selling 20 $2mil cars per years isn't as valuable as selling 1mil "cheap" $700 iPhones per year.
  - pkulak 3y ago
    Holy smokes do you ever have complicated taxes!
    - JAlexoid 3y ago
      I do, and when I do I get a tax person. But 7 out of 8 years in a row my taxes were standard deduction... Question is - how does it excuse Intuit at all?
Mountain_Skies 3y ago
Democrats have the opportunity to change that. Every time Republicans are in charge, the Democrats scream loudly about letting the IRS offer their own free tax filing service and blame Republicans for it not happening. The IRS is trying again right now to offer free filing and the Democrats are in charge of Congress and the presidency. They can make this happen or they can let the IRS's work go to waste and reserve this issue for screaming at Republicans again next time they have control over the White House or part of Congress.
- jakearmitage 3y ago
  Are you assuming Democrats are inherently good and well-meaning and could not make this happen due to a missed opportunity? Because corruption goes both ways. There's a reason one party blames the other for X when the other is in power, and then do nothing about X when they are in power.
  - sinistersnare 3y ago
    I agree with you. The Democrats and Republicans in our government mostly agree on the topic we are discussing in this thread. There is no radical movement discussed within our government to actually solve these problems. No politician is making serious attempts to improve our bureaucratic system.
  - harpooniker 3y ago
    The Inflation Reduction Act directed the IRS to create a feasibility study on direct file "The report focuses on three areas: taxpayer opinions, cost and feasibility. The report also includes an analysis conducted by an independent third party, as required by the statute. The report also lays out the potential benefits and challenges associated with the IRS implementing a Direct File program." https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-submits-direct-file-report-to-congress-treasury-department-directs-pilot-to-evaluate-key-issues https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-submits-direct-file-report-...
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- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  Democrats have not been in charge for a couple decades or more. Manchin has long not toed the line with Democrats, and Sinema is officially not a Democrat, so they are not even at 50 senate votes. And they are the minority in the House, so they clearly do not have any control of Congress. You also need 60 votes in the Senate for whatever reason, which they are nowhere close to. The last time sort of had it, which was again a heavily compromised 60 votes, was Jun to Dec 2009 during which time PPACA was passed.
soundsgoodtome 3y ago
Honestly, I think there are just a lot of really naive people who visit this site… and I think there are a lot of bad actors here who are complicit too. Anyone who’s been in the game for more than a few years knows how amoral companies are. Marketers and growth PMs are incentivized to convert, regardless of the methods used. Execs don’t give a shit unless there’s an impact on revenue. Anecdata - I PM a product suite that serves growth/marketers. If you’re reading this, your company has probably used it, is actively using it, or has considered using it. I regularly ask customers and prospects about their KPIs during research calls - in the end, conversion is all that matters.

harikb 3y ago

My tax guy uses Intuit Software as well. And I pay him 10x the cost of Turbo Tax. But I pay him for expertise / peace of mind. Intuit can fleece me all they want. Give me non-BS advanced features and I will gladly pay way more. Just don't trick my mom & dad. But I guess they need to make their money from the masses.

JAlexoid 3y ago
Let's be real - us paying them $4000 per year isn't going to make them money. Tricking your parents into paying for things that they don't even need - that's where the money is. Selling 20 $2mil cars per years isn't as valuable as selling 1mil "cheap" $700 iPhones per year.
- pkulak 3y ago
  Holy smokes do you ever have complicated taxes!
  - JAlexoid 3y ago
    I do, and when I do I get a tax person. But 7 out of 8 years in a row my taxes were standard deduction... Question is - how does it excuse Intuit at all?

Mountain_Skies 3y ago

Democrats have the opportunity to change that. Every time Republicans are in charge, the Democrats scream loudly about letting the IRS offer their own free tax filing service and blame Republicans for it not happening. The IRS is trying again right now to offer free filing and the Democrats are in charge of Congress and the presidency. They can make this happen or they can let the IRS's work go to waste and reserve this issue for screaming at Republicans again next time they have control over the White House or part of Congress.

jakearmitage 3y ago
Are you assuming Democrats are inherently good and well-meaning and could not make this happen due to a missed opportunity? Because corruption goes both ways. There's a reason one party blames the other for X when the other is in power, and then do nothing about X when they are in power.
- sinistersnare 3y ago
  I agree with you. The Democrats and Republicans in our government mostly agree on the topic we are discussing in this thread. There is no radical movement discussed within our government to actually solve these problems. No politician is making serious attempts to improve our bureaucratic system.
- harpooniker 3y ago
  The Inflation Reduction Act directed the IRS to create a feasibility study on direct file "The report focuses on three areas: taxpayer opinions, cost and feasibility. The report also includes an analysis conducted by an independent third party, as required by the statute. The report also lays out the potential benefits and challenges associated with the IRS implementing a Direct File program." https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-submits-direct-file-report-to-congress-treasury-department-directs-pilot-to-evaluate-key-issues https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-submits-direct-file-report-...
- deleted 3y ago
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lotsofpulp 3y ago
Democrats have not been in charge for a couple decades or more. Manchin has long not toed the line with Democrats, and Sinema is officially not a Democrat, so they are not even at 50 senate votes. And they are the minority in the House, so they clearly do not have any control of Congress. You also need 60 votes in the Senate for whatever reason, which they are nowhere close to. The last time sort of had it, which was again a heavily compromised 60 votes, was Jun to Dec 2009 during which time PPACA was passed.

soundsgoodtome 3y ago

Honestly, I think there are just a lot of really naive people who visit this site… and I think there are a lot of bad actors here who are complicit too. Anyone who’s been in the game for more than a few years knows how amoral companies are. Marketers and growth PMs are incentivized to convert, regardless of the methods used. Execs don’t give a shit unless there’s an impact on revenue. Anecdata - I PM a product suite that serves growth/marketers. If you’re reading this, your company has probably used it, is actively using it, or has considered using it. I regularly ask customers and prospects about their KPIs during research calls - in the end, conversion is all that matters.