> disturbing to think about Why, exactly? Every time somebody tries to defend that position it either becomes a circular argument (x is bad because it leads t

> disturbing to think about Why, exactly? Every time somebody tries to defend that position it either becomes a circular argument (x is bad because it leads to more x!) or a non-sequitir (there was once a guy who did x and he became a mass murderer!). It doesn't destroy your lungs and kill you like smoking does or cause you to crash your car and kill other people like drinking does - in the worst case, it just turns you into a recluse which I believe is exactly what women _want_ of the unwanted men who find refuge in it. They certainly don't want those men trying to talk to them.