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Loved this energy at the time. So inspiring, even for folks far far away from Joel’s world. Could credit it for quite a few people’s future success. So differe

by nickpp 3y ago

Loved this energy at the time. So inspiring, even for folks far far away from Joel’s world. Could credit it for quite a few people’s future success. So different from today's sentiment of "Only rich kids can play with startups, you shouldn’t even bother. You need universal healthcare/UBI first".

facorreia 3y ago
I followed Joel’s posts and learned a lot from them. He inspired me and had a concrete impact on my career and what I value as a software engineer.
- dang 3y ago
  His posts used to drive me crazy in a love-to-hate way, but I read them regularly because he's a good writer. I just disagreed with him about everything. One day I clicked on a link that took me to one of PG's Lisp essays. Who was this guy? I'd never read anything like it. That's how I found out about PG, it's what nudged me to finally learn Lisp, it's what led me to follow YC before it was YC (and HN before it was HN), and thus it's why I'm here. Thanks Joel! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=791989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=791989
  - facorreia 3y ago
    Great story, thanks for sharing. I believe that Joel's ideas like using source control, making a build in one step, having a bug database, having the best tools that money can buy, and writing a spec resonated with me in great part because I worked on ERP-style projects that were often built to support large and complex business processes that were well defined.
Apocryphon 3y ago
No one says that about startups these days. What they do want is low-to-near-zero interest rates.
- ska 3y ago
  Startups in the valley were a thing well before low interest rates were even imagined. Interest rates change the landscape, but it's hardly a prerequisite.
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    Sure, but this boom has been really driven by them. No one's clamoring for UHC/UBI, in contrast to cheap capital.
    - ska 3y ago
      It's always been cyclic though, cheap capital is probably a red herring. Agree UBI etc. idea is not that relevant.

by nickpp 3y ago

facorreia 3y ago

I followed Joel’s posts and learned a lot from them. He inspired me and had a concrete impact on my career and what I value as a software engineer.

dang 3y ago
His posts used to drive me crazy in a love-to-hate way, but I read them regularly because he's a good writer. I just disagreed with him about everything. One day I clicked on a link that took me to one of PG's Lisp essays. Who was this guy? I'd never read anything like it. That's how I found out about PG, it's what nudged me to finally learn Lisp, it's what led me to follow YC before it was YC (and HN before it was HN), and thus it's why I'm here. Thanks Joel! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=791989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=791989
- facorreia 3y ago
  Great story, thanks for sharing. I believe that Joel's ideas like using source control, making a build in one step, having a bug database, having the best tools that money can buy, and writing a spec resonated with me in great part because I worked on ERP-style projects that were often built to support large and complex business processes that were well defined.

Apocryphon 3y ago

No one says that about startups these days. What they do want is low-to-near-zero interest rates.

ska 3y ago
Startups in the valley were a thing well before low interest rates were even imagined. Interest rates change the landscape, but it's hardly a prerequisite.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  Sure, but this boom has been really driven by them. No one's clamoring for UHC/UBI, in contrast to cheap capital.
  - ska 3y ago
    It's always been cyclic though, cheap capital is probably a red herring. Agree UBI etc. idea is not that relevant.