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Privacy blog post. vercel-insights.com, www.google.com, 'Sign up with Google', Join 132,793 people from companies like: Microsoft, Amazon, facebook, Google, Dis

Privacy blog post. vercel-insights.com, www.google.com, 'Sign up with Google', Join 132,793 people from companies like: Microsoft, Amazon, facebook, Google, Disney "There it is again. That funny feeling."

SushiHippie 3y ago
Well..., he says in the comic: "...there's nothing wrong with a bit of data collection."
daneel_w 3y ago
Ironic, isn't it. And the author apparently has nothing at all to say about Android and Google.
- nirvdrum 3y ago
  The article is about Apple because Apple is the one billing itself as the vanguard of privacy and as the privacy-preserving opponent of Android. It's also quite possible the author doesn't have or use an Android device. If you've invested in a platform for reasons related to privacy, I think it's quite okay to be concerned when that platform falls short on some pretty big privacy invasions.
  - daneel_w 3y ago
    They bill themselves as the privacy-protecting opponent of Android because iOS/iPadOS doesn't commit to breaches of privacy the way Google does in, well, pretty much all of their products. So how does Apple fall short, and how are they the ones committing privacy invasions? By allowing third-party applications on the App Store? By not rejecting every app they don't like? They're doing users the favor of letting them know what information apps can collect so that users can make informed choices.
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    - nirvdrum 3y ago
      Maybe I misread your intent, but it sounded like a "gotcha!" on the original post because the author didn't dive into something with even worse privacy protections. Google and Android don't need to be brought up every time Apple privacy is being discussed. For a huge swathe of people it's an irrelevant point. And, yes, I believe Apple could do better. Being better at privacy than Google isn't a monumental hurdle to clear. We can and should push all parties to do better. > They're doing users the favor of letting them know what information apps can collect so that users can make informed choices. The whole point of the article is that this information is hard to find and hard to understand. The author is suggesting Apple find a better way to present that data. That would help consumers make a more informed decision. Many people don't realize just how pervasive that tracking is. Perhaps surfacing that data would help consumers pressure bad actors into being better citizens. Moreover, I'd argue they should also use their platform to rein things in. It'd be nice if they used their position to improve the privacy of their users. It's their walled garden. It's their platform. It's their APIs being used. The App Store already has a bunch of rules, most of which benefit Apple, so I don't think it's a huge leap to add one that protects consumers. And a lot of the current privacy issues are a result of Apple and Google building a new platform that gives apps unprecedented access to personal data. I think they have a responsibility to clean up that mess. If that means apps like Threads aren't viable, so be it. But, I suspect Meta would be able to find a way to make a social media app that doesn't need to track so much.
- wiseowise 3y ago
  Why should they? They compare Meta and Apple, aren’t they?
  - daneel_w 3y ago
    The article tries to make it out as if it's about privacy and integrity in general. Google is all the way up at the top of the list of crooks together with arseholes like Meta.
    - warkdarrior 3y ago
      That's whataboutism at its finest! A: "I will write an article about Apple's and Meta's privacy practices." B: "But what about Google???"
      - daneel_w 3y ago
        It's not whataboutery. I'm not the one being accused of anything here. Meta and Apple are, and there are no good reasons to bring up two of the world's top three giants in a privacy abuse discussion while conveniently leaving the third one, the biggest one, out of it. There are only bad reasons for it.
- advisedwang 3y ago
  I count 3 articles about or comparing Google products on their site: https://growth.design/case-studies https://growth.design/case-studies
otterley 3y ago
"Gotcha! I am very intelligent." https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342...
- hatefulmoron 3y ago
  >"the XYZ corp is bad!" >please stop supporting them >"https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342..."

SushiHippie 3y ago

Well..., he says in the comic: "...there's nothing wrong with a bit of data collection."

daneel_w 3y ago

Ironic, isn't it. And the author apparently has nothing at all to say about Android and Google.

nirvdrum 3y ago
The article is about Apple because Apple is the one billing itself as the vanguard of privacy and as the privacy-preserving opponent of Android. It's also quite possible the author doesn't have or use an Android device. If you've invested in a platform for reasons related to privacy, I think it's quite okay to be concerned when that platform falls short on some pretty big privacy invasions.
- daneel_w 3y ago
  They bill themselves as the privacy-protecting opponent of Android because iOS/iPadOS doesn't commit to breaches of privacy the way Google does in, well, pretty much all of their products. So how does Apple fall short, and how are they the ones committing privacy invasions? By allowing third-party applications on the App Store? By not rejecting every app they don't like? They're doing users the favor of letting them know what information apps can collect so that users can make informed choices.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - nirvdrum 3y ago
    Maybe I misread your intent, but it sounded like a "gotcha!" on the original post because the author didn't dive into something with even worse privacy protections. Google and Android don't need to be brought up every time Apple privacy is being discussed. For a huge swathe of people it's an irrelevant point. And, yes, I believe Apple could do better. Being better at privacy than Google isn't a monumental hurdle to clear. We can and should push all parties to do better. > They're doing users the favor of letting them know what information apps can collect so that users can make informed choices. The whole point of the article is that this information is hard to find and hard to understand. The author is suggesting Apple find a better way to present that data. That would help consumers make a more informed decision. Many people don't realize just how pervasive that tracking is. Perhaps surfacing that data would help consumers pressure bad actors into being better citizens. Moreover, I'd argue they should also use their platform to rein things in. It'd be nice if they used their position to improve the privacy of their users. It's their walled garden. It's their platform. It's their APIs being used. The App Store already has a bunch of rules, most of which benefit Apple, so I don't think it's a huge leap to add one that protects consumers. And a lot of the current privacy issues are a result of Apple and Google building a new platform that gives apps unprecedented access to personal data. I think they have a responsibility to clean up that mess. If that means apps like Threads aren't viable, so be it. But, I suspect Meta would be able to find a way to make a social media app that doesn't need to track so much.
wiseowise 3y ago
Why should they? They compare Meta and Apple, aren’t they?
- daneel_w 3y ago
  The article tries to make it out as if it's about privacy and integrity in general. Google is all the way up at the top of the list of crooks together with arseholes like Meta.
  - warkdarrior 3y ago
    That's whataboutism at its finest! A: "I will write an article about Apple's and Meta's privacy practices." B: "But what about Google???"
    - daneel_w 3y ago
      It's not whataboutery. I'm not the one being accused of anything here. Meta and Apple are, and there are no good reasons to bring up two of the world's top three giants in a privacy abuse discussion while conveniently leaving the third one, the biggest one, out of it. There are only bad reasons for it.
advisedwang 3y ago
I count 3 articles about or comparing Google products on their site: https://growth.design/case-studies https://growth.design/case-studies

otterley 3y ago

"Gotcha! I am very intelligent." https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342...

hatefulmoron 3y ago
>"the XYZ corp is bad!" >please stop supporting them >"https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342..."