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Funny, I was just looking at where to put a VPS and what is the most cost effective way if I don't care about getting the best performance. Oracle has an alway

by xrd 3y ago

Funny, I was just looking at where to put a VPS and what is the most cost effective way if I don't care about getting the best performance. Oracle has an always free tier, but it is hard to build much on 1 vcpu and 1 gb of ram. They offer $300 free credits so you can use some services for free until those credits run out, but their servers are at least double the price of others like Hertzner or Vultr and there are even cheaper ones if you are willing to take the tradeoffs. I thought, why not check out IBM and see if they offer a free tier or credits? And, then was triggered by the "Free credits for Watson!" I don't know if they have a free tier or not, but that ad alone had me walk away. IBM's reputation over the last few years carries forth in my imagination.

eropple 3y ago
Oracle also offers 4CPU/24GB of Ampere, if you can run your stuff on ARM.
re-thc 3y ago
> are at least double the price of others like Hertzner or Vultr Unless you specifically need a lot of bandwidth then no. Vultr has EPYC 3rd gen behind a more expensive paywall and don't have 4th gen announced yet either. Hetzner is better, but again 3rd / 4th gen are only available for dedicated CPU plans. It's a bit of a lottery and there aren't many 4th gens in the mix. There is like a 40% performance difference. So whereas with Oracle cloud you can specifically pick the latest generation and with preemptible instances it's not as bad as it looks. Definitely not 2x.
- xrd 3y ago
  This is great clarification, thanks!
globalise83 3y ago
IBM had quite a good free tier on their Bluemix platform (which got ingested by Cloud), but in the end it was discontinued. A few years later I started getting bills for predicted server costs (which actually were never incurred) arriving at my parents' home that I had given as a sign-up address, but wasn't able to log into my account to close it altogether having altogether forgotten about my account, let alone the login details. And it was using my university email address anyway which of course I had no access to. In the end I pestered someone in the company enough that they just went in and closed the account for me.
- rbanffy 3y ago
  Oh yes... IBM Cloud spends more on paper and mail than I pay them. I guess I'll start getting even more paper over the mail from them...
ilyt 3y ago
> Oracle has an always free tier, but it is hard to build much on 1 vcpu and 1 gb of ram. Oracle will throw away your running VM on free tier no warning. Mine got thrown away so hard entire account was fucked and I didn't even had an option to upgrade to paid account...
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pjc50 3y ago
You get 60GB of disk on the Always Free tier, which is pretty decent even if the server is slow.
seabrookmx 3y ago
Google Cloud also has a free tier (2vCPU / 1GB RAM). I use one to host Vaultwarden and Syncthing.. works great once you find your way around their console :P
- rbanffy 3y ago
  Isn't it only for the "beta" offerings?
  - seabrookmx 3y ago
    Nope: https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#free-tier-usage-limits https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#free-...
    - rbanffy 3y ago
      Lovely. It is still pricing that VM at about $9 per month. I'll play with it and see.

by xrd 3y ago

eropple 3y ago

Oracle also offers 4CPU/24GB of Ampere, if you can run your stuff on ARM.

re-thc 3y ago

> are at least double the price of others like Hertzner or Vultr Unless you specifically need a lot of bandwidth then no. Vultr has EPYC 3rd gen behind a more expensive paywall and don't have 4th gen announced yet either. Hetzner is better, but again 3rd / 4th gen are only available for dedicated CPU plans. It's a bit of a lottery and there aren't many 4th gens in the mix. There is like a 40% performance difference. So whereas with Oracle cloud you can specifically pick the latest generation and with preemptible instances it's not as bad as it looks. Definitely not 2x.

xrd 3y ago
This is great clarification, thanks!

globalise83 3y ago

IBM had quite a good free tier on their Bluemix platform (which got ingested by Cloud), but in the end it was discontinued. A few years later I started getting bills for predicted server costs (which actually were never incurred) arriving at my parents' home that I had given as a sign-up address, but wasn't able to log into my account to close it altogether having altogether forgotten about my account, let alone the login details. And it was using my university email address anyway which of course I had no access to. In the end I pestered someone in the company enough that they just went in and closed the account for me.

rbanffy 3y ago
Oh yes... IBM Cloud spends more on paper and mail than I pay them. I guess I'll start getting even more paper over the mail from them...

ilyt 3y ago

> Oracle has an always free tier, but it is hard to build much on 1 vcpu and 1 gb of ram. Oracle will throw away your running VM on free tier no warning. Mine got thrown away so hard entire account was fucked and I didn't even had an option to upgrade to paid account...

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pjc50 3y ago

You get 60GB of disk on the Always Free tier, which is pretty decent even if the server is slow.

seabrookmx 3y ago

Google Cloud also has a free tier (2vCPU / 1GB RAM). I use one to host Vaultwarden and Syncthing.. works great once you find your way around their console :P

rbanffy 3y ago
Isn't it only for the "beta" offerings?
- seabrookmx 3y ago
  Nope: https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#free-tier-usage-limits https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#free-...
  - rbanffy 3y ago
    Lovely. It is still pricing that VM at about $9 per month. I'll play with it and see.