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I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way)

by eithed 3y ago

zimpenfish 3y ago
I think, at least partially, "civil engineers" - good to know where trees are as an indication of potential root problems with pavements, pipes, conduits, etc. Also for things like "where might we have road overhang problems" - if it's a conifer, probably ok, but if it's a London Plane, that might be an issue. Oh and also to know where to send the horrifically noisy leaf blowing man who spends half his life outside in the square revving his diesel abomination.
traceroute66 3y ago
> I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way) A significant portion of London's trees are subject to Tree Preservation Orders (TPO) and/or are located in a conservation area.[1] If you want to do anything to a tree subject to the above, then you in conjunction with your tree surgeon need to request permission from the local authority. If you don't then you're in trouble because it is a criminal offence to remove, prune or damage protected trees. In addition you of course have non-protected trees on public land that are owned by the local authority and so they likely have a maintenance database for those. So it therefore goes that you require a database of said trees and hence this dataset is likely nothing more than an aggregation of the indvidual datasets from the various local authorities (of which there are 32 IIRC, hence quite a lot of data). Here is an example of a TPO list from just one Local Authority.[2] [1] https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-preservation-orders-and-trees-in-conservation-areas https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-preservation-orders-and-tre... [2] https://www.merton.gov.uk/planning-and-buildings/planning/tree-preservation-orders/list https://www.merton.gov.uk/planning-and-buildings/planning/tr...

I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way)

by eithed 3y ago

I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way)

zimpenfish 3y ago

I think, at least partially, "civil engineers" - good to know where trees are as an indication of potential root problems with pavements, pipes, conduits, etc. Also for things like "where might we have road overhang problems" - if it's a conifer, probably ok, but if it's a London Plane, that might be an issue. Oh and also to know where to send the horrifically noisy leaf blowing man who spends half his life outside in the square revving his diesel abomination.

traceroute66 3y ago

> I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way) A significant portion of London's trees are subject to Tree Preservation Orders (TPO) and/or are located in a conservation area.[1] If you want to do anything to a tree subject to the above, then you in conjunction with your tree surgeon need to request permission from the local authority. If you don't then you're in trouble because it is a criminal offence to remove, prune or damage protected trees. In addition you of course have non-protected trees on public land that are owned by the local authority and so they likely have a maintenance database for those. So it therefore goes that you require a database of said trees and hence this dataset is likely nothing more than an aggregation of the indvidual datasets from the various local authorities (of which there are 32 IIRC, hence quite a lot of data). Here is an example of a TPO list from just one Local Authority.[2] [1] https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-preservation-orders-and-trees-in-conservation-areas https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-preservation-orders-and-tre... [2] https://www.merton.gov.uk/planning-and-buildings/planning/tree-preservation-orders/list https://www.merton.gov.uk/planning-and-buildings/planning/tr...