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I don't understand why some people give such credence to arguments of sentience. We're not even talking about killing animals for science or the "greater good"
by echelon_musk 3y ago
I don't understand why some people give such credence to arguments of sentience.
We're not even talking about killing animals for science or the "greater good" when discussing meat consumption.
Animals feel pain and can experience suffering just like humans can.
I think the fact that the suffering in the supply chain is hidden is the main reason it's not a consideration for most consumers.
- ben_w 3y ago"Pain" can be nocioception, or it can be the qualia. We can trivially make a machine with the former, and that acts to minimise that sensory input. Does it have the qualia? How might we even be able to prove it either way? That subjective experience, qualia or whatever you call it, what I meant here by sentience. Given that the term pretty much always leads to discussion like this, I have only myself to blame for forgetting to mention an any of this in the previous comment.
- circuit10 3y agoWikipedia says sentience means "the ability to experience feelings and sensations" so "Animals feel pain and can experience suffering just like humans can" is describing sentience
- Turing_Machine 3y agoPigs will happily eat human beings if given the chance, without giving a single crap about the human's "rights". As I understand it, several hog farmers are eaten by their charges every year. Hogs have also been used as a convenient method of disposing of murder victims on numerous occasions over the centuries. Turnabout is fair play.