> I say that I disagree. But to elaborate much further would lead to unnecessary flames. It's almost impossible to reach a consensus on such complex issues: we

> I say that I disagree. But to elaborate much further would lead to unnecessary flames. It's almost impossible to reach a consensus on such complex issues: we all have different sources of information, sensibilities, biais, etc. Polite discussions with discordant point of views is pretty much the best we can hope to achieve. > This is also a fairly recent development, up to as early as 2015 the internet landscape did not look this way. For the sake of completeness, those kind of techniques have been successfully set into motion in the West as early as WWI[0][1]. This[2] was posted here recently: it was essentially "public" knowledge by 1949, well understood by educated classes. That's to say, it's not really surprising to see the Internet used in this manner. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Lippmann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Lippmann [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays [2]: https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/ https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/