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For anyone interested in learning more about the NSO group, I'd recommend this podcast episode: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/100/ https://darknetdiaries.c

by fuddle 3y ago

For anyone interested in learning more about the NSO group, I'd recommend this podcast episode: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/100/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/100/

pseg134 3y ago
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- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  The US could demand NSO on a platter if they realty wanted to, but they don't. Israel intelligence often aids the US alphabet boys and the NSA on various offensive operations and intelligence gathering, which is why NSO is allowed to keep doing business by both parties.
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- fatfingerd 3y ago
  The US government gives them billions of dollars and they help the US government maintain puppet dictatorships like Saudi Arabia..
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    And the US barely has an inherent interest in Saudi Arabia. Israel is credited for helping the US "fight terrorism in the Middle East" or maintain those puppets, but really they're just helping us help them. When it comes to things that don't directly benefit Israel, they don't care. Israel has never even fought ISIS for example, the largest recent terrorist threat in the region. And they're allowed to maintain some neutrality in situations like Russia's attack on Ukraine. You might even call them neutral wrt ISIS since they aren't in this mostly symbolic list: https://www.state.gov/the-global-coalition-to-defeat-isis-partners/ https://www.state.gov/the-global-coalition-to-defeat-isis-pa... For all the things Israel has done against the US's wishes (like West Bank settlement), the US has struggled to do just one thing Israel doesn't like: the Iran nuclear deal. But at least one of our major parties is somewhat willing to push it. I think they're also somewhat annoyed with our focus on Ukraine.
    - vxNsr 3y ago
      It’s truly shocking how misinformed you are about foreign policy. Israel attempted to maintain some level of neutrality wrt Russia bec when they show preferences, Russia punishes the local Jewish population… which they promptly did as soon as Israel showed any support for Ukraine. Israel shares a ton of intel with the US regarding many of the local terrorist organizations in the ME. Not to mention they’re flying sorties into Syrian airspace almost nightly. (Infamously Syria AA shot down a russian spy plane, killing 11, thinking they finally caught an Israeli plane) And Israel’s absence from that symbolic list was likely a precondition to get many of those Arab and African nations on the list. Israel has ISIS locally so there’s no doubt they’re fighting isis. Finally wrt the Jordan’s west bank: they lost it years ago and it’s so odd you keep calling it that… maybe use the actual name for the area and suddenly Israel’s policy will make sense.
      - aihkas 3y ago
        Are you an NSO psychopath or something?! Those funny propaganda jokes you're spewing are not working. The Israeli Hasbara lies are so bad and funny (Oh we won the land instead of we are scumy occupiers and land thieves haha.) This Israeli murder cult is sad and pathetic.
        hot_gril 3y ago
        Not an appropriate comment for here.
        vxNsr 3y ago
        your bigotry doesn't do your argument any favors. of course there isn't really an argument here, just hate.
        aihkas 3y ago
        You're the one who has no argument, other than pure hatred. Any sane human being would be against criminal genocidal ideologies like Zionism and Nazism. Cheering the monstrous crimes of those political ideologies is nothing but vile hate. It is a murder cult, come with an argument or f off. It is not my job to educate you if you're brainwashed.
- vxNsr 3y ago
  You seem to think the NSO is some rogue org within Israel. Couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s simply a plausible deniability org that works for everyone, and counts every single US intelligence agency among its clients. The fact that you’re all upset about what they’re doing is exactly the point, you’re pointing your finger the NSO when it’s the NSA who’s paying them off.
- lijok 3y ago
  By “we” I assume you mean the US. The NSO group and others are services that powerful people in the US regularly employ.
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  No, we don’t pay them to hack our phones. Most governments are paying for these services as spying is a recognized arm of statecraft that has actually prevented many wars/conflicts.
- yieldcrv 3y ago
  We bought a vassal state with highly competent people. They are generally independent in internal affairs and so NSO group would have nothing to do with the government. But you're right, we don't need that one at all any longer. Someone once told me that Israel would align more closely with Russia if we did that, which is a laughable come back, like, okay? have fun with that. Retracking the various forms of funding and defense contractor slush funds would be a simple step.
- fortran77 3y ago
  NSO Group is a private company owned by UK investment group "Novalpina Capital." Stop spreading misinformation.
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by fuddle 3y ago

For anyone interested in learning more about the NSO group, I'd recommend this podcast episode: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/100/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/100/

pseg134 3y ago

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FirmwareBurner 3y ago
The US could demand NSO on a platter if they realty wanted to, but they don't. Israel intelligence often aids the US alphabet boys and the NSA on various offensive operations and intelligence gathering, which is why NSO is allowed to keep doing business by both parties.
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fatfingerd 3y ago
The US government gives them billions of dollars and they help the US government maintain puppet dictatorships like Saudi Arabia..
- hot_gril 3y ago
  And the US barely has an inherent interest in Saudi Arabia. Israel is credited for helping the US "fight terrorism in the Middle East" or maintain those puppets, but really they're just helping us help them. When it comes to things that don't directly benefit Israel, they don't care. Israel has never even fought ISIS for example, the largest recent terrorist threat in the region. And they're allowed to maintain some neutrality in situations like Russia's attack on Ukraine. You might even call them neutral wrt ISIS since they aren't in this mostly symbolic list: https://www.state.gov/the-global-coalition-to-defeat-isis-partners/ https://www.state.gov/the-global-coalition-to-defeat-isis-pa... For all the things Israel has done against the US's wishes (like West Bank settlement), the US has struggled to do just one thing Israel doesn't like: the Iran nuclear deal. But at least one of our major parties is somewhat willing to push it. I think they're also somewhat annoyed with our focus on Ukraine.
  - vxNsr 3y ago
    It’s truly shocking how misinformed you are about foreign policy. Israel attempted to maintain some level of neutrality wrt Russia bec when they show preferences, Russia punishes the local Jewish population… which they promptly did as soon as Israel showed any support for Ukraine. Israel shares a ton of intel with the US regarding many of the local terrorist organizations in the ME. Not to mention they’re flying sorties into Syrian airspace almost nightly. (Infamously Syria AA shot down a russian spy plane, killing 11, thinking they finally caught an Israeli plane) And Israel’s absence from that symbolic list was likely a precondition to get many of those Arab and African nations on the list. Israel has ISIS locally so there’s no doubt they’re fighting isis. Finally wrt the Jordan’s west bank: they lost it years ago and it’s so odd you keep calling it that… maybe use the actual name for the area and suddenly Israel’s policy will make sense.
    - aihkas 3y ago
      Are you an NSO psychopath or something?! Those funny propaganda jokes you're spewing are not working. The Israeli Hasbara lies are so bad and funny (Oh we won the land instead of we are scumy occupiers and land thieves haha.) This Israeli murder cult is sad and pathetic.
      - hot_gril 3y ago
        Not an appropriate comment for here.
      - vxNsr 3y ago
        your bigotry doesn't do your argument any favors. of course there isn't really an argument here, just hate.
        aihkas 3y ago
        You're the one who has no argument, other than pure hatred. Any sane human being would be against criminal genocidal ideologies like Zionism and Nazism. Cheering the monstrous crimes of those political ideologies is nothing but vile hate. It is a murder cult, come with an argument or f off. It is not my job to educate you if you're brainwashed.
vxNsr 3y ago
You seem to think the NSO is some rogue org within Israel. Couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s simply a plausible deniability org that works for everyone, and counts every single US intelligence agency among its clients. The fact that you’re all upset about what they’re doing is exactly the point, you’re pointing your finger the NSO when it’s the NSA who’s paying them off.
lijok 3y ago
By “we” I assume you mean the US. The NSO group and others are services that powerful people in the US regularly employ.
mensetmanusman 3y ago
No, we don’t pay them to hack our phones. Most governments are paying for these services as spying is a recognized arm of statecraft that has actually prevented many wars/conflicts.
yieldcrv 3y ago
We bought a vassal state with highly competent people. They are generally independent in internal affairs and so NSO group would have nothing to do with the government. But you're right, we don't need that one at all any longer. Someone once told me that Israel would align more closely with Russia if we did that, which is a laughable come back, like, okay? have fun with that. Retracking the various forms of funding and defense contractor slush funds would be a simple step.
fortran77 3y ago
NSO Group is a private company owned by UK investment group "Novalpina Capital." Stop spreading misinformation.

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