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Similar here. People still get annoyed when I ask. Dude, I’m just trying to save time. You can say “I don’t know” and I’ll go read. You don’t have to talk in c

Similar here. People still get annoyed when I ask. Dude, I’m just trying to save time. You can say “I don’t know” and I’ll go read. You don’t have to talk in circles, you don’t have the make something up (that will often be wrong), just admit the truth.

chankstein38 3y ago
Right? I hate when I ask someone something and their response is to go way overboard in answering. "Do you have time for a 30min video call to talk about it?" kinds of things. I mean, obviously it's appreciated but if you don't know (just say so) or if it's that massive just point me at an article or a nice reference pull request or something.
- JuanPosadas 3y ago
  The "I can't communicate anything without a full video chat" types are the worst for sure.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    The "video" types are the worst. Talk to me over text only. Phone calls are also unacceptable.
mgaunard 3y ago
You should do your own research before disrupting others. It's basic politeness.
- jagged-chisel 3y ago
  Oh, I’m not going out of the way to find someone to interrupt. But we’re already having a meeting or discussion and by the way, do you have any quick tidbits on this thing? Especially if the thing was a new topic in the meeting. I’m happy to research and guess. But if it’s convenient (for everyone) I’ll pipe up asking for whatever morsels you have that will save time.
- aeonik 3y ago
  Research takes too long if you have access to sources directly. Documentation is rigid, and assumes the reader has some level of familiarity and state. Growing up on the Internet has led, for me, to have a very eclectic and fragmented knowledge base. Speaking with someone affords me to skip all the BS and more precisely target the information I'm after, it also gives the other person the opportunity to spot and fix XY problems, or to refer me to somewhere that will be more fruitful. Also, I don't know where the threshold for "polite" is. I can research something for a decade, and people will still be frustrated with me.

chankstein38 3y ago

Right? I hate when I ask someone something and their response is to go way overboard in answering. "Do you have time for a 30min video call to talk about it?" kinds of things. I mean, obviously it's appreciated but if you don't know (just say so) or if it's that massive just point me at an article or a nice reference pull request or something.

JuanPosadas 3y ago
The "I can't communicate anything without a full video chat" types are the worst for sure.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  The "video" types are the worst. Talk to me over text only. Phone calls are also unacceptable.

mgaunard 3y ago

You should do your own research before disrupting others. It's basic politeness.

jagged-chisel 3y ago
Oh, I’m not going out of the way to find someone to interrupt. But we’re already having a meeting or discussion and by the way, do you have any quick tidbits on this thing? Especially if the thing was a new topic in the meeting. I’m happy to research and guess. But if it’s convenient (for everyone) I’ll pipe up asking for whatever morsels you have that will save time.
aeonik 3y ago
Research takes too long if you have access to sources directly. Documentation is rigid, and assumes the reader has some level of familiarity and state. Growing up on the Internet has led, for me, to have a very eclectic and fragmented knowledge base. Speaking with someone affords me to skip all the BS and more precisely target the information I'm after, it also gives the other person the opportunity to spot and fix XY problems, or to refer me to somewhere that will be more fruitful. Also, I don't know where the threshold for "polite" is. I can research something for a decade, and people will still be frustrated with me.