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That only helps with the power draw, not thinness, weight or cost

deaddodo 3y ago
Which is specifically why I address thinness and weight independent of the disablement. You could read passed the first sentence next time. As to cost, AMD generally bundles their GPU/CPUs so you aren't saving much by removing it. Certainly not anything the manufacturer is going to pass on to you, at least.
- circuit10 3y ago
  It might be thin and light enough for you but I’m guessing it could be thinner or lighter Can they really provide a whole dedicated GPU, the extra circuitry on the motherboard to support it, a whole other cooling system, more powerful power delivery and the battery size to compensate all without costing any extra money or weight?
  - deaddodo 3y ago
    You vastly overestimate the TDP of a midrange laptop GPU. And/or don't understand general cooling infrastructure in modern laptops. As to the size, what is even the point of arguing. Just go look at the specs yourself and decide if it's thin and light enough. I gave an option that the majority would consider so. If it's not for you, fine. Find something else or accept it doesn't exist. You can keep moving the goalposts infinitely for someone who needs a hypothetically thinner and lighter laptop, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
    - circuit10 3y ago
      I looked up the TDP of some laptop GPUs and they're all over 35W. The maximum TDP of the CPU the commenter was talking about, which has good integrated graphics, is 30W. The TDP of the mobile 4070 you mentioned is 115W(!) > If it's not for you, fine. Find something else or accept it doesn't exist. You seemed to be very dismissive of the person you were replying to, implying that it's not an issue at all because you can just disable it. I'm pointing out that it isn't always the case. I never said that your solution is completely useless, it's just not a good solution for most people Also, I'm pretty sure the Framework doesn't have a built in dedicated GPU like you're saying, but an optional detachable module for one (that makes it more viable in this case though)
      - deaddodo 3y ago
        > I looked up the TDP of some laptop GPUs and they're all over 35W. The maximum TDP of the CPU the commenter was talking about, which has good integrated graphics, is 30W. The TDP of the mobile 4070 you mentioned is 115W(!) None of which is contained inside of the Framework laptop. Awesome, glad you found some random stats to dismiss a hypothetical laptop I mentioned. > You seemed to be very dismissive of the person you were replying to I offered an alternative to their complaint. But sure, instead of "dismissing" them, I could leave them to complain and whine. Or follow you down ever dwindling definitions of "thin" and "light" until you prove yourself correct about some made up argument in your head. Either way, I'm done with your Trump-style snippet-based retort tactics. Go buy a Steam Deck clone, since that's your's and the OP's only choice, apparently.
        Eldt 3y ago
        Just give it a rest already. You people are insufferable.

Which is specifically why I address thinness and weight independent of the disablement. You could read passed the first sentence next time. As to cost, AMD generally bundles their GPU/CPUs so you aren't saving much by removing it. Certainly not anything the manufacturer is going to pass on to you, at least.

circuit10 3y ago
It might be thin and light enough for you but I’m guessing it could be thinner or lighter Can they really provide a whole dedicated GPU, the extra circuitry on the motherboard to support it, a whole other cooling system, more powerful power delivery and the battery size to compensate all without costing any extra money or weight?
- deaddodo 3y ago
  You vastly overestimate the TDP of a midrange laptop GPU. And/or don't understand general cooling infrastructure in modern laptops. As to the size, what is even the point of arguing. Just go look at the specs yourself and decide if it's thin and light enough. I gave an option that the majority would consider so. If it's not for you, fine. Find something else or accept it doesn't exist. You can keep moving the goalposts infinitely for someone who needs a hypothetically thinner and lighter laptop, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
  - circuit10 3y ago
    I looked up the TDP of some laptop GPUs and they're all over 35W. The maximum TDP of the CPU the commenter was talking about, which has good integrated graphics, is 30W. The TDP of the mobile 4070 you mentioned is 115W(!) > If it's not for you, fine. Find something else or accept it doesn't exist. You seemed to be very dismissive of the person you were replying to, implying that it's not an issue at all because you can just disable it. I'm pointing out that it isn't always the case. I never said that your solution is completely useless, it's just not a good solution for most people Also, I'm pretty sure the Framework doesn't have a built in dedicated GPU like you're saying, but an optional detachable module for one (that makes it more viable in this case though)
    - deaddodo 3y ago
      > I looked up the TDP of some laptop GPUs and they're all over 35W. The maximum TDP of the CPU the commenter was talking about, which has good integrated graphics, is 30W. The TDP of the mobile 4070 you mentioned is 115W(!) None of which is contained inside of the Framework laptop. Awesome, glad you found some random stats to dismiss a hypothetical laptop I mentioned. > You seemed to be very dismissive of the person you were replying to I offered an alternative to their complaint. But sure, instead of "dismissing" them, I could leave them to complain and whine. Or follow you down ever dwindling definitions of "thin" and "light" until you prove yourself correct about some made up argument in your head. Either way, I'm done with your Trump-style snippet-based retort tactics. Go buy a Steam Deck clone, since that's your's and the OP's only choice, apparently.
      - Eldt 3y ago
        Just give it a rest already. You people are insufferable.