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This is one of the things people on this site have been saying that Microsoft should do if they really stand behind Copilot, and now that they've done it, you h

This is one of the things people on this site have been saying that Microsoft should do if they really stand behind Copilot, and now that they've done it, you have again moved the goalposts and this announcement is entirely insufficient. How dare they? amirite?

bcrosby95 3y ago
"people on this site" consists of thousands of people, including you, with a variety of opinions, and not everyone comments on every subject. You're basically complaining that not everyone believes the same thing.
- naikrovek 3y ago
  "people on this site" includes the people I'm talking about, as well. are you saying that I should name them specifically? or is "people" too general?
- fooker 3y ago
  While that's true, voted comments are a decent indicator of general opinions and trends. There is a reason voting works (in this context, and otherwise), you can't always give up after declaring that people have differing opinions.
  - rurp 3y ago
    The variance is extremely high though. Only a small percent of users interact with any given story. Sometimes a posted story gets no traction, then sticks on the front page for many hours when reposted another day.
    - crazygringo 3y ago
      This is about up/down-voting comments, not upvoting stories. There isn't really a lot of variance when it comes to the top voted comments on popular stories. Especially when it concerns the big tech companies. The opinions are fairly predictable.
- crazygringo 3y ago
  Nevertheless, there are standard opinions that get upvoted and get downvoted. There is definitely a prevailing ethos here and it's valid to point out potential inconsistencies.
skywhopper 3y ago
What are you talking about? You need to cite specific individuals. I'm one of the people who is skeptical of the ethics of training a huge LLM on code without the authors' permission, but I also think this is an appropriate move by Microsoft. It aligns the incentives appropriately. But for folks that are negative on both accounts, maybe they've just learned their lesson from decades of watching Microsoft take the low road over and over again.

bcrosby95 3y ago

"people on this site" consists of thousands of people, including you, with a variety of opinions, and not everyone comments on every subject. You're basically complaining that not everyone believes the same thing.

naikrovek 3y ago
"people on this site" includes the people I'm talking about, as well. are you saying that I should name them specifically? or is "people" too general?
fooker 3y ago
While that's true, voted comments are a decent indicator of general opinions and trends. There is a reason voting works (in this context, and otherwise), you can't always give up after declaring that people have differing opinions.
- rurp 3y ago
  The variance is extremely high though. Only a small percent of users interact with any given story. Sometimes a posted story gets no traction, then sticks on the front page for many hours when reposted another day.
  - crazygringo 3y ago
    This is about up/down-voting comments, not upvoting stories. There isn't really a lot of variance when it comes to the top voted comments on popular stories. Especially when it concerns the big tech companies. The opinions are fairly predictable.
crazygringo 3y ago
Nevertheless, there are standard opinions that get upvoted and get downvoted. There is definitely a prevailing ethos here and it's valid to point out potential inconsistencies.

skywhopper 3y ago

What are you talking about? You need to cite specific individuals. I'm one of the people who is skeptical of the ethics of training a huge LLM on code without the authors' permission, but I also think this is an appropriate move by Microsoft. It aligns the incentives appropriately. But for folks that are negative on both accounts, maybe they've just learned their lesson from decades of watching Microsoft take the low road over and over again.