> we have not been locking people up for punishment for quite some time Whether or not this is true seems kind of beside the point. All I'm saying as that, fo

> we have not been locking people up for punishment for quite some time Whether or not this is true seems kind of beside the point. All I'm saying as that, for an arbitrary reader, a consequence of determinism is that the morals of "desert" are meaningfully impacted—whether that convinces them against retribution, or buttresses their existing notions against it.