you do expect some kind of return though. It just comes in a different form. You don't go to kickstarter and say, "oh hey, ill just piss away 25$ because this

you do expect some kind of return though. It just comes in a different form. You don't go to kickstarter and say, "oh hey, ill just piss away 25$ because this guy seems nice...." plus kickstarter has its own vetting process.