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> Nintendo is scummy AF advertising/marketing to children and their constant abuse of fans for playing recreationally with IP. This is really not my experience

> Nintendo is scummy AF advertising/marketing to children and their constant abuse of fans for playing recreationally with IP. This is really not my experience. To my eye they don't seem to be engaged in the majority of the awful practices around marketing that are pervasive in tech today. As for the "constant abuse of fans" thing - is Nintendo really that different from any other company who has to protect their IP in this arena? There have definitely been frustrating situations around fan games and the like, but the argument I've always seen (which makes sense) is that they pretty much have to enforce copyright zealously to prevent loss of control of their brands.

gjsman-1000 3y ago
Also, this is Nintendo. Like it or not, and whether they like it or not, child friendly is their brand. Who’s to say, that if you allow one fan game, some pedophile won’t make their own fan game? And kids won’t start sending messages about how they appreciate his game? There isn’t one. Stop it before it can happen.
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- hospitalJail 3y ago
  Oh man I can come up with an even scarier hypothetical: What if North Korea starts using Nintendo characters to create a religion and uses it to overthrow governments?!?! Well since North Korea isn't bound by IP laws, its best to dissolve Nintendo to keep everyone safe. Hey, if you like Nintendo, you support North Korean Indoctrination. Or I have a different idea, what if a 12 year old kid learned programming to make a pokemon knockoff and donated the money to curing cancer. I like my hypotheticals more than yours. Which do you like?
hospitalJail 3y ago
>To my eye they don't seem to be engaged in the majority of the awful practices around marketing You literally arent their target demographic. Children too young to understand marketing are. Unless you are a kid, you wouldn't be targeted.
- epiccoleman 3y ago
  I have kids, who have Nintendo consoles, and who like Nintendo's games, and I pay pretty close attention to their net usage and what they see on their consoles. It might well be the case that I'm enough a firewall that their sinister marketing isn't making it into my home, but I haven't personally seen it. I'd be interested to hear more specific examples of what you mean. I'm not claiming they're not doing anything wrong, just that it's not consistent with my own experience of Nintendo. Their console seems to be more respectful of my kids than most other platforms (although the fact that there's not a good way to block the Youtube app is a glaring omission - you can password protect the eShop and prevent it from making it onto their device in the first place, but there should really be a way to block a specific application, and nothing I've tried in their parental controls has worked).
  - hospitalJail 3y ago
    This sounds like you (and/or your kids) were successfully marketed to by Nintendo.
    - epiccoleman 3y ago
      This isn't really worth arguing, but I'll bite. Where's the marketing in what I've said? They make good games. Their console isn't full of ads or micro transactions or other bullshit. They made good games when I was a kid and they still do now. The console is more family friendly than the other two big ones. Do they market to kids? Of course. They make big budget kids movies. They sell t shirts and posters and toys. But I'm just not seeing what's so sinister here.

gjsman-1000 3y ago

Also, this is Nintendo. Like it or not, and whether they like it or not, child friendly is their brand. Who’s to say, that if you allow one fan game, some pedophile won’t make their own fan game? And kids won’t start sending messages about how they appreciate his game? There isn’t one. Stop it before it can happen.

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hospitalJail 3y ago
Oh man I can come up with an even scarier hypothetical: What if North Korea starts using Nintendo characters to create a religion and uses it to overthrow governments?!?! Well since North Korea isn't bound by IP laws, its best to dissolve Nintendo to keep everyone safe. Hey, if you like Nintendo, you support North Korean Indoctrination. Or I have a different idea, what if a 12 year old kid learned programming to make a pokemon knockoff and donated the money to curing cancer. I like my hypotheticals more than yours. Which do you like?

hospitalJail 3y ago

>To my eye they don't seem to be engaged in the majority of the awful practices around marketing You literally arent their target demographic. Children too young to understand marketing are. Unless you are a kid, you wouldn't be targeted.

epiccoleman 3y ago
I have kids, who have Nintendo consoles, and who like Nintendo's games, and I pay pretty close attention to their net usage and what they see on their consoles. It might well be the case that I'm enough a firewall that their sinister marketing isn't making it into my home, but I haven't personally seen it. I'd be interested to hear more specific examples of what you mean. I'm not claiming they're not doing anything wrong, just that it's not consistent with my own experience of Nintendo. Their console seems to be more respectful of my kids than most other platforms (although the fact that there's not a good way to block the Youtube app is a glaring omission - you can password protect the eShop and prevent it from making it onto their device in the first place, but there should really be a way to block a specific application, and nothing I've tried in their parental controls has worked).
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  This sounds like you (and/or your kids) were successfully marketed to by Nintendo.
  - epiccoleman 3y ago
    This isn't really worth arguing, but I'll bite. Where's the marketing in what I've said? They make good games. Their console isn't full of ads or micro transactions or other bullshit. They made good games when I was a kid and they still do now. The console is more family friendly than the other two big ones. Do they market to kids? Of course. They make big budget kids movies. They sell t shirts and posters and toys. But I'm just not seeing what's so sinister here.