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More crucially, HR managers at a lot of startups now have apps that will notify them if you change basically _anything_ on your LinkedIn. I have a friend who to

More crucially, HR managers at a lot of startups now have apps that will notify them if you change basically _anything_ on your LinkedIn. I have a friend who took a part-time "CTO" position that was basically a very small startup trying to look better to investors and didn't involve any real work on his part beyond a weekly meeting, who was fired from his main gig _within minutes_ of him adding this line to his LinkedIn. So yeah, I'm personally all for a LinkedIn replacement that lets the candidate specify broad permissions like "don't show this line to anyone affiliated with X". Heck, I'd even make one if I had the time.

lolinder 3y ago
That kind of fine-grained permission scheme just gives a false sense of security if signups are open to the public—that HR department would just sign up for another account and avoid linking it to the company.
- sam0x17 3y ago
  True, but the problem right now is apps doing this on HR departments' behalf. If you make the site robustly immune to scraping and bots and take active steps to disable such apps (LinkedIn, if anything, probably sees the existence of these apps as a feature that makes businesses like them), you'd see a lot less of this sort of thing in the wild LinkedIn is business-first, not candidate first, and that's part of the problem. Like imagine if instead of a global searchable index, you can generate as many unique profiles as you like and give whichever version to whichever company you want and can reasonably expect that only people that company has shown that link to will see it. Then you can have some anonymized way for businesses to "discover" candidates and they can send a request for a full profile. Heck, if the talent pool is good enough, you could even make _them_ pay to _ask_ the user for a full profile. If one were to make such a "candidate-first" platform, it would theoretically be a lot easier to get tons of profiles on there, since the scale is tipped in their favor. They (and not businesses) are the majority in this situation, so it's natural that services like this should cater to the real primary user and have businesses foot the bill. edit: now I want to do it X_X
  - fakedang 3y ago
    Forget that, what if we could do it for personal profile? There's one inner circle of friends whom I love to spam with shitty jokes or interesting articles, and there's another wider circle where I'm just friendly. Another circle of friends from work, and another circle of friends/acquaintances from my locality. This is especially a bigger problem for my female friends - almost all of them have their public profiles on all networks private, save for a few of the influencer variety. I tried exploring this idea, but I figured that it would be extremely difficult to sustain such a network. Not to mention, people are just so locked in to either Tiktok and Instagram (millennial and Gen Z) or Facebook (boomers) or WhatsApp (practically everyone outside the US). It's gonna be hard to migrate people from the incumbents.
    - pintxo 3y ago
      Did you just describe Googles retired attempt at doing a social network?
      - sam0x17 3y ago
        Being a FANG sort of removes the "cool" factor that lets a NEW social network really take off imo. Sure they have tons of users and resources so they can actually get off the ground, but then they stagnate, like we're currently seeing with Threads etc.
      - fakedang 3y ago
        Something like the circles feature, but I think they messed up a lot, by requiring real names tied to an account for instance.
francisofascii 3y ago
I wonder if this could work in your favor. "Hey, this key individual is updating LinkedIn. Maybe we should consider increasing this person's pay before they leave".

lolinder 3y ago

That kind of fine-grained permission scheme just gives a false sense of security if signups are open to the public—that HR department would just sign up for another account and avoid linking it to the company.

sam0x17 3y ago
True, but the problem right now is apps doing this on HR departments' behalf. If you make the site robustly immune to scraping and bots and take active steps to disable such apps (LinkedIn, if anything, probably sees the existence of these apps as a feature that makes businesses like them), you'd see a lot less of this sort of thing in the wild LinkedIn is business-first, not candidate first, and that's part of the problem. Like imagine if instead of a global searchable index, you can generate as many unique profiles as you like and give whichever version to whichever company you want and can reasonably expect that only people that company has shown that link to will see it. Then you can have some anonymized way for businesses to "discover" candidates and they can send a request for a full profile. Heck, if the talent pool is good enough, you could even make _them_ pay to _ask_ the user for a full profile. If one were to make such a "candidate-first" platform, it would theoretically be a lot easier to get tons of profiles on there, since the scale is tipped in their favor. They (and not businesses) are the majority in this situation, so it's natural that services like this should cater to the real primary user and have businesses foot the bill. edit: now I want to do it X_X
- fakedang 3y ago
  Forget that, what if we could do it for personal profile? There's one inner circle of friends whom I love to spam with shitty jokes or interesting articles, and there's another wider circle where I'm just friendly. Another circle of friends from work, and another circle of friends/acquaintances from my locality. This is especially a bigger problem for my female friends - almost all of them have their public profiles on all networks private, save for a few of the influencer variety. I tried exploring this idea, but I figured that it would be extremely difficult to sustain such a network. Not to mention, people are just so locked in to either Tiktok and Instagram (millennial and Gen Z) or Facebook (boomers) or WhatsApp (practically everyone outside the US). It's gonna be hard to migrate people from the incumbents.
  - pintxo 3y ago
    Did you just describe Googles retired attempt at doing a social network?
    - sam0x17 3y ago
      Being a FANG sort of removes the "cool" factor that lets a NEW social network really take off imo. Sure they have tons of users and resources so they can actually get off the ground, but then they stagnate, like we're currently seeing with Threads etc.
    - fakedang 3y ago
      Something like the circles feature, but I think they messed up a lot, by requiring real names tied to an account for instance.

francisofascii 3y ago

I wonder if this could work in your favor. "Hey, this key individual is updating LinkedIn. Maybe we should consider increasing this person's pay before they leave".