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You want to pull 1,103 server's disks? The compatibility problems you have trying to get data off a disks in a hardware raid make it impractical (do you have t

by jlawer 15y ago

You want to pull 1,103 server's disks? The compatibility problems you have trying to get data off a disks in a hardware raid make it impractical (do you have the EXACT SAME version hardware revision & firmware; without this you can't guarantee you can read it back)? Its either that or you have to pay data recovery guys to rebuild it. Not to mention hard drive costs are still high, post thai floods. For enterprise gear we are getting most quotes ~ $300 AUD a disk, for consumer gear its ~ $130. Most servers are running at least 2 disks... that $286K worth of disks alone if your talking cheap - low capacity disks, not including labour to change the disks and test the hardware before you deploy a workload to it.

bshep 15y ago
Well as I said the could do it piecemeal (10 servers at a time or what have you) and it would require that the data (harware/versions/etc) for the source machine be archived with the disks. (good cataloguing) Also $286K / $9k / day ~= 32 days, so in 32 days it costs them more to keep it all running that simply replace the disks. Not to mention they could now lease those servers to another client and make money off of them.
- jlawer 15y ago
  Yeah, I think you would also consider that with a fairly standard equipment lifecycle program you would have 1/3rd to 1/4 of the equipment up for renewal in the next 12 months. Maybe you bring that renewal forward... and maybe you spec some nicer hardware (new Xeon E-5, etc) and are able to get a better consolidation happening so you don't replace everything. I just wonder if they would be in a better financial position declaring it a loss and claiming the tax break / insurance then actually doing the work? As long as they can support the hit to the cashflow, they are likely to be able to claim the damages back from either one of the parties of the case once its decided and / or insurance.
Karunamon 15y ago
>The compatibility problems you have trying to get data off a disks in a hardware raid make it impractical (do you have the EXACT SAME version hardware revision & firmware; without this you can't guarantee you can read it back)? Its either that or you have to pay data recovery guys to rebuild it. Forgive me for for sounding like a member of Anonymous but.. So? That's the government's problem. I don't see why a private company should be in any position where they're required (at wallet or gun point) to help in an investigation at their own expense. Pull the drives, warehouse them, and let the FBI do what they have to do. They have IT to rebuild the RAIDs.
- lotu 15y ago
  Carpathia wants to be paid $9000 a day like they were before the Megaupload case started and pulling the drives and telling the FBI that it's their problem doesn't do that.
  - Karunamon 15y ago
    No, but it stops the costs from accruing. Legal action could then be brought to recover their other costs.

by jlawer 15y ago

bshep 15y ago

Well as I said the could do it piecemeal (10 servers at a time or what have you) and it would require that the data (harware/versions/etc) for the source machine be archived with the disks. (good cataloguing) Also $286K / $9k / day ~= 32 days, so in 32 days it costs them more to keep it all running that simply replace the disks. Not to mention they could now lease those servers to another client and make money off of them.

jlawer 15y ago
Yeah, I think you would also consider that with a fairly standard equipment lifecycle program you would have 1/3rd to 1/4 of the equipment up for renewal in the next 12 months. Maybe you bring that renewal forward... and maybe you spec some nicer hardware (new Xeon E-5, etc) and are able to get a better consolidation happening so you don't replace everything. I just wonder if they would be in a better financial position declaring it a loss and claiming the tax break / insurance then actually doing the work? As long as they can support the hit to the cashflow, they are likely to be able to claim the damages back from either one of the parties of the case once its decided and / or insurance.

Karunamon 15y ago

>The compatibility problems you have trying to get data off a disks in a hardware raid make it impractical (do you have the EXACT SAME version hardware revision & firmware; without this you can't guarantee you can read it back)? Its either that or you have to pay data recovery guys to rebuild it. Forgive me for for sounding like a member of Anonymous but.. So? That's the government's problem. I don't see why a private company should be in any position where they're required (at wallet or gun point) to help in an investigation at their own expense. Pull the drives, warehouse them, and let the FBI do what they have to do. They have IT to rebuild the RAIDs.

lotu 15y ago
Carpathia wants to be paid $9000 a day like they were before the Megaupload case started and pulling the drives and telling the FBI that it's their problem doesn't do that.
- Karunamon 15y ago
  No, but it stops the costs from accruing. Legal action could then be brought to recover their other costs.