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Considering I do most of my critical listening in front of the big system, I would love a tvOS version. While Atmos can be a bit of a gimmick depending on the m

by bouvin 3y ago

Considering I do most of my critical listening in front of the big system, I would love a tvOS version. While Atmos can be a bit of a gimmick depending on the mix (I am here exclusively talking about listening with a full surround system, and Atmos really should not be judged on how it renders to headphones), multi-channel can be very nice for bringing the concert ambience to the listener. I have been buying multi-channel FLACs from Pentatone [1] for years, but a streaming service would be neat. [1] https://www.pentatonemusic.com https://www.pentatonemusic.com

gmac 3y ago
Yes! I'm a bit surprised it's still iPhone-only. I was in fact listening to classical music in Music on my Apple TV only yesterday (and found a nasty bug where it wouldn't play the track I asked for, which I should probably report). I was doing this because Dolby Atmos tracks AirPlayed to my Apple TV + non-Atmos receiver come out only as stereo, but the same tracks played in the Apple TV Music app come out as 5.1.
- manderley 3y ago
  *Iphone and Android
OfSanguineFire 3y ago
Not only can Atmos be a bit of a gimmick, but there have already been cases of mere stereo recordings converted to Atmos through trickery, instead of having been originally recorded as multi-channel. Consumers are getting scammed.
- basisword 3y ago
  Could you explain what you mean by this? Very few things are recorded as stereo. Things are recorded on individual tracks and then mixed in stereo. Access to the original recordings allows remixing in Atmos.
  - OfSanguineFire 3y ago
    That’s the thing. There have been Atmos releases where there was no access to the original recordings, only the stereo mix. Fake surround-sound was then created without consumers being aware of this. This was reported by a poster on the ILM message board[0]: > OK, so I had a conversation today with producer John Snyder (worked with Ornette Coleman and Cecil Taylor, did tons of archival jazz stuff for decades, blah blah blah) and he was telling me about how some Atmos "conversions" are being done and this is some snake-oil bullshit. In a lot of cases, they're taking stereo masters (not even the original tapes, but the album masters), playing them back in the big room of a studio with microphones set up in three different positions relative to the speaker horns, and using those new recordings to build the Atmos "mixes". [0] https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&bookmarkedmessageid=8579250&boardid=41&threadid=113888 https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?sh...
    - blowski 3y ago
      Could I, your average listener, notice the difference in quality? If not, then it sounds like Atmos, so what's the problem?
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    - basisword 3y ago
      Wow. Seems like such a waste of time. Especially given on iOS at least you can hit the “spatialise stereo” toggle to do this automatically if you’re so inclined.
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by bouvin 3y ago

gmac 3y ago

Yes! I'm a bit surprised it's still iPhone-only. I was in fact listening to classical music in Music on my Apple TV only yesterday (and found a nasty bug where it wouldn't play the track I asked for, which I should probably report). I was doing this because Dolby Atmos tracks AirPlayed to my Apple TV + non-Atmos receiver come out only as stereo, but the same tracks played in the Apple TV Music app come out as 5.1.

manderley 3y ago
*Iphone and Android

OfSanguineFire 3y ago

Not only can Atmos be a bit of a gimmick, but there have already been cases of mere stereo recordings converted to Atmos through trickery, instead of having been originally recorded as multi-channel. Consumers are getting scammed.

basisword 3y ago
Could you explain what you mean by this? Very few things are recorded as stereo. Things are recorded on individual tracks and then mixed in stereo. Access to the original recordings allows remixing in Atmos.
- OfSanguineFire 3y ago
  That’s the thing. There have been Atmos releases where there was no access to the original recordings, only the stereo mix. Fake surround-sound was then created without consumers being aware of this. This was reported by a poster on the ILM message board[0]: > OK, so I had a conversation today with producer John Snyder (worked with Ornette Coleman and Cecil Taylor, did tons of archival jazz stuff for decades, blah blah blah) and he was telling me about how some Atmos "conversions" are being done and this is some snake-oil bullshit. In a lot of cases, they're taking stereo masters (not even the original tapes, but the album masters), playing them back in the big room of a studio with microphones set up in three different positions relative to the speaker horns, and using those new recordings to build the Atmos "mixes". [0] https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&bookmarkedmessageid=8579250&boardid=41&threadid=113888 https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?sh...
  - blowski 3y ago
    Could I, your average listener, notice the difference in quality? If not, then it sounds like Atmos, so what's the problem?
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
  - basisword 3y ago
    Wow. Seems like such a waste of time. Especially given on iOS at least you can hit the “spatialise stereo” toggle to do this automatically if you’re so inclined.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]