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Provided you always plan ahead for where you're going by multiple hours. And don't carry anything more then hand luggage. And don't semi-regularly need to move

by XorNot 3y ago

Provided you always plan ahead for where you're going by multiple hours. And don't carry anything more then hand luggage. And don't semi-regularly need to move heavy loads. Or need to get children from place to place. And that there's public transport service there at all. People always have some "look how lightweight my life is, why would anyone need a car" and I can pretty reliably guess that they (1) don't own a house and/or (2) don't have kids, and/or (3) don't work in a job which requires them to get to more then 1 site and/or (4) live near the center of a major urban center. Finally: "pay for the road you drive on" - that's literally what gas taxes are for, EVs already attract additional taxes to account for this, and I'm real curious how you think the things you buy in stores get there...

arcticbull 3y ago
> Provided you always plan ahead for where you're going by multiple hours. I took Hong Kong MTR recently and during peak times they had 40 trains per hour (2 trains every 3 minutes), and off-peak it was like 8 trains per hour. You really didn't have to plan ahead. It was lovely. > And don't carry anything more then hand luggage. Order it delivered. > And don't semi-regularly need to move heavy loads. Rent a car when you need it. > Or need to get children from place to place Go with them on transit. > And that there's public transport service there at all. Which is my point. > Finally: "pay for the road you drive on" - that's literally what gas taxes are for, EVs already attract additional taxes to account for this, and I'm real curious how you think the things you buy in stores get there... The entire cost of roads is not born by fuel taxes. Fuel taxes total about $50B but roads generally cost about $200B. Free parking, parking minimums in building, etc, etc, are all taxes non-drivers have to pay to support drivers habits.

by XorNot 3y ago

arcticbull 3y ago

> Provided you always plan ahead for where you're going by multiple hours. I took Hong Kong MTR recently and during peak times they had 40 trains per hour (2 trains every 3 minutes), and off-peak it was like 8 trains per hour. You really didn't have to plan ahead. It was lovely. > And don't carry anything more then hand luggage. Order it delivered. > And don't semi-regularly need to move heavy loads. Rent a car when you need it. > Or need to get children from place to place Go with them on transit. > And that there's public transport service there at all. Which is my point. > Finally: "pay for the road you drive on" - that's literally what gas taxes are for, EVs already attract additional taxes to account for this, and I'm real curious how you think the things you buy in stores get there... The entire cost of roads is not born by fuel taxes. Fuel taxes total about $50B but roads generally cost about $200B. Free parking, parking minimums in building, etc, etc, are all taxes non-drivers have to pay to support drivers habits.