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Arguing about determinism is boring and pointless. If determinism is true, then logic and reason has no bearing on anybody’s conclusion. It is only if determini
by RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
Arguing about determinism is boring and pointless. If determinism is true, then logic and reason has no bearing on anybody’s conclusion. It is only if determinism is false that logic and reason are in any way meaningful, and thus anything is worth arguing about.
Another way:
If determinism is true, then there is no point in arguing about it.
So:
If it is worth arguing about, then according to the laws of logic, it is false.
If it is not with arguing about, then why are you arguing about it.
- nprateem 3y agoHow do you work out whether it's worth arguing about or not?
- drupe 3y agoEven if hard determinism is true then the act of 'communicating a logical argument' is still part of the deterministic chain of events and could potentially influence the beliefs and actions of others.
- simiones 3y ago> If determinism is true, then logic and reason has no bearing on anybody’s conclusion. That is obviously false. In a deterministic model, your beliefs are determined by all of the inputs you ever received. It is in fact stronger than a model of the world that includes strong free will: there, an agent can hear a perfectly valid argument that explains in all ways that the agent understands this that 1+1=2, but the agent can decide not to believe it for no reason whatsoever (since its decision would be independent from anything that they had ever heard or experienced or thought about before). It is in fact pure free will that would make any kind of logic or reasoning useless, since, again, your decisions would not be in any way determined by your life up to the point of the decision.