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For me at least, some of the impetus would be to help my poor coworkers who are stuck with prick manager. And to help the company as I think it is a good compa

For me at least, some of the impetus would be to help my poor coworkers who are stuck with prick manager. And to help the company as I think it is a good company with good leaders minus the prick. I'm probably just being idealistic.

mytailorisrich 3y ago
Your coworkers have the same options as you have. They can leave. Your manager also has his own manager and interacts with and is judged by senior management. They know and if they are unhappy they will let him go. On the other hand, if you hate the job it's not necessarily an issue with the company. It may simply be that you don't like it as a matter of personal preference and fit.
elmerfud 3y ago
Your coworkers are in the exact same situation as you and it's reasonable to believe that they also understand the situation as you do. Perhaps they're just not as motivated to get out of it, sometimes people get stuck in positions through a kind of Stockholm syndrome and don't believe that they're better. Instead of saying anything negative to them or your boss's boss simply encourage your coworkers. Let them know that they're good people that they're good at their job that there are many opportunities out there and they should evaluate their position their career and their happiness all together and that they are bright enough to move to other places if it would further their own happiness and career. It does remind me of a position I had in the past at a company that very much had that abusive style of management that can keep people trapped. I had been at the company for many years and there was also other people who had been there just as long as I had. We were all in senior positions we knew the technical ins and out of every aspect of the company in our business. The company's technique was to simply tell us we were lucky to have a job and that no one else would want to put up with us. Finally I woke up and got to the point I got another job where I was appreciated and yes sometimes people who are good at their job have quirks like I do but good employers learn to work with that and they learn to help you interact with other people in a better way. Because they value your skills and they know everything else can be taught or moderated. When I left that company within 3 months every other person who had been there as long as I had left as well all for top-tier companies. So who knows maybe you're leaving will wake up your coworkers to realize they are also better than this job and they don't have to put up with this.

mytailorisrich 3y ago

Your coworkers have the same options as you have. They can leave. Your manager also has his own manager and interacts with and is judged by senior management. They know and if they are unhappy they will let him go. On the other hand, if you hate the job it's not necessarily an issue with the company. It may simply be that you don't like it as a matter of personal preference and fit.

elmerfud 3y ago

Your coworkers are in the exact same situation as you and it's reasonable to believe that they also understand the situation as you do. Perhaps they're just not as motivated to get out of it, sometimes people get stuck in positions through a kind of Stockholm syndrome and don't believe that they're better. Instead of saying anything negative to them or your boss's boss simply encourage your coworkers. Let them know that they're good people that they're good at their job that there are many opportunities out there and they should evaluate their position their career and their happiness all together and that they are bright enough to move to other places if it would further their own happiness and career. It does remind me of a position I had in the past at a company that very much had that abusive style of management that can keep people trapped. I had been at the company for many years and there was also other people who had been there just as long as I had. We were all in senior positions we knew the technical ins and out of every aspect of the company in our business. The company's technique was to simply tell us we were lucky to have a job and that no one else would want to put up with us. Finally I woke up and got to the point I got another job where I was appreciated and yes sometimes people who are good at their job have quirks like I do but good employers learn to work with that and they learn to help you interact with other people in a better way. Because they value your skills and they know everything else can be taught or moderated. When I left that company within 3 months every other person who had been there as long as I had left as well all for top-tier companies. So who knows maybe you're leaving will wake up your coworkers to realize they are also better than this job and they don't have to put up with this.