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I've done this when I was younger and it never turns out well. You're essentially burning bridges for personal satisfaction with no real benefit. If you're taki

I've done this when I was younger and it never turns out well. You're essentially burning bridges for personal satisfaction with no real benefit. If you're taking a job in a similar or the same field it is likely you may meet some of these people or have to work together with them or people who know them in the future. So feeding your ego is fun but thinking long-term what value does it get you personally? I can tell you for many years of experience working at both good and bad jobs that it is very rare for a company to be completely oblivious about managers who are horrible at their job and/or for a company to be unaware they are a toxic workplace. Generally these managers and their boss and the company leadership all know exactly who and what they are and they do not care about grinding through talented people because they want people that they can just grind to dust and make money off of. It's the kind of place that the term a "human resources" was invented for because the people are just a commodity resource doesn't matter if you're good or bad at your job they will grind through you and find another and they know exactly what they're doing and they don't care. So it's best to move on politely and quietly because you may work for another company that will have business dealings with your former employer. Even if you think that's unlikely no one knows what the future will exactly bring and vindictive places like that can be vindictive. Even if you wanted to take the opportunity in your exit interview to give a totally non-eagodriven emotionally detached assessment of the work environment, it is a waste of your time. They honestly don't care what you think because if they did they would have listened to you before you got to the point of quitting. They're not hiring you as a consultant so that's another reason why they would not listen to you. Anything you say that is even slightly negative you will absorb all the blame for it. The best way to leave a bad company is to make them miss you and give them no reason to think anything bad.

theonething 3y ago
For me at least, some of the impetus would be to help my poor coworkers who are stuck with prick manager. And to help the company as I think it is a good company with good leaders minus the prick. I'm probably just being idealistic.
- mytailorisrich 3y ago
  Your coworkers have the same options as you have. They can leave. Your manager also has his own manager and interacts with and is judged by senior management. They know and if they are unhappy they will let him go. On the other hand, if you hate the job it's not necessarily an issue with the company. It may simply be that you don't like it as a matter of personal preference and fit.
- elmerfud 3y ago
  Your coworkers are in the exact same situation as you and it's reasonable to believe that they also understand the situation as you do. Perhaps they're just not as motivated to get out of it, sometimes people get stuck in positions through a kind of Stockholm syndrome and don't believe that they're better. Instead of saying anything negative to them or your boss's boss simply encourage your coworkers. Let them know that they're good people that they're good at their job that there are many opportunities out there and they should evaluate their position their career and their happiness all together and that they are bright enough to move to other places if it would further their own happiness and career. It does remind me of a position I had in the past at a company that very much had that abusive style of management that can keep people trapped. I had been at the company for many years and there was also other people who had been there just as long as I had. We were all in senior positions we knew the technical ins and out of every aspect of the company in our business. The company's technique was to simply tell us we were lucky to have a job and that no one else would want to put up with us. Finally I woke up and got to the point I got another job where I was appreciated and yes sometimes people who are good at their job have quirks like I do but good employers learn to work with that and they learn to help you interact with other people in a better way. Because they value your skills and they know everything else can be taught or moderated. When I left that company within 3 months every other person who had been there as long as I had left as well all for top-tier companies. So who knows maybe you're leaving will wake up your coworkers to realize they are also better than this job and they don't have to put up with this.

theonething 3y ago

For me at least, some of the impetus would be to help my poor coworkers who are stuck with prick manager. And to help the company as I think it is a good company with good leaders minus the prick. I'm probably just being idealistic.

mytailorisrich 3y ago
Your coworkers have the same options as you have. They can leave. Your manager also has his own manager and interacts with and is judged by senior management. They know and if they are unhappy they will let him go. On the other hand, if you hate the job it's not necessarily an issue with the company. It may simply be that you don't like it as a matter of personal preference and fit.
elmerfud 3y ago
Your coworkers are in the exact same situation as you and it's reasonable to believe that they also understand the situation as you do. Perhaps they're just not as motivated to get out of it, sometimes people get stuck in positions through a kind of Stockholm syndrome and don't believe that they're better. Instead of saying anything negative to them or your boss's boss simply encourage your coworkers. Let them know that they're good people that they're good at their job that there are many opportunities out there and they should evaluate their position their career and their happiness all together and that they are bright enough to move to other places if it would further their own happiness and career. It does remind me of a position I had in the past at a company that very much had that abusive style of management that can keep people trapped. I had been at the company for many years and there was also other people who had been there just as long as I had. We were all in senior positions we knew the technical ins and out of every aspect of the company in our business. The company's technique was to simply tell us we were lucky to have a job and that no one else would want to put up with us. Finally I woke up and got to the point I got another job where I was appreciated and yes sometimes people who are good at their job have quirks like I do but good employers learn to work with that and they learn to help you interact with other people in a better way. Because they value your skills and they know everything else can be taught or moderated. When I left that company within 3 months every other person who had been there as long as I had left as well all for top-tier companies. So who knows maybe you're leaving will wake up your coworkers to realize they are also better than this job and they don't have to put up with this.