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counterpoint: all my young engineers who started during the pandemic vastly prefer working from home most of the time with 1-2 days a week in the office. Some

counterpoint: all my young engineers who started during the pandemic vastly prefer working from home most of the time with 1-2 days a week in the office. Some want remote only.

gamblor956 3y ago
Your counterpoint was just my point about RTO actually being a transition to a hybrid schedule rather than a fulltime return to office 5 days a week... Working remote-only is doable for a senior-level employee with an established career, but it will kill a younger employee's career. A lot of things happen in person that can't be replicated through emails, slack, etc.
- bluefishinit 3y ago
  This is not true at all. Younger employees are even more equipped for remote work than older employees. They grew up with Discord, Youtube, Twitch... lots have even contributed to open source software. The junior people on the remote teams I've worked on have always been super engaged and rewarded with more responsibility.
- o1y32 3y ago
  I joined my current company at the height of the pandemic. So did at least hundreds of other people, many of which joined as their first job. I am a top performer at the company, and I also can't tell how other people who joined around the same time and worked fully remote the first two years would have been any better in their career had the pandemic not happened. I don't see any young employee's career killed. This is all just empty talk.
  - JambalayaJim 3y ago
    I graduated in 2020 and absolutely feel that my learning and career have suffered immensely. This is a very common thought amongst people in my cohort.
    - gamblor956 3y ago
      Your observations as a recent graduate match my observations. RTO (specifically, hybrid, but that depends on the position) made a huge difference in learning and career development for younger employees at my company. I do think it's quite hilarious that all of the older employees are claiming that their younger counterparts are doing just fine now that RTO is happening but just months ago were claiming that these newer hires were lazy or incompetent when WFH was at its zenith.

counterpoint: all my young engineers who started during the pandemic vastly prefer working from home most of the time with 1-2 days a week in the office. Some want remote only.

gamblor956 3y ago

Your counterpoint was just my point about RTO actually being a transition to a hybrid schedule rather than a fulltime return to office 5 days a week... Working remote-only is doable for a senior-level employee with an established career, but it will kill a younger employee's career. A lot of things happen in person that can't be replicated through emails, slack, etc.

bluefishinit 3y ago
This is not true at all. Younger employees are even more equipped for remote work than older employees. They grew up with Discord, Youtube, Twitch... lots have even contributed to open source software. The junior people on the remote teams I've worked on have always been super engaged and rewarded with more responsibility.
o1y32 3y ago
I joined my current company at the height of the pandemic. So did at least hundreds of other people, many of which joined as their first job. I am a top performer at the company, and I also can't tell how other people who joined around the same time and worked fully remote the first two years would have been any better in their career had the pandemic not happened. I don't see any young employee's career killed. This is all just empty talk.
- JambalayaJim 3y ago
  I graduated in 2020 and absolutely feel that my learning and career have suffered immensely. This is a very common thought amongst people in my cohort.
  - gamblor956 3y ago
    Your observations as a recent graduate match my observations. RTO (specifically, hybrid, but that depends on the position) made a huge difference in learning and career development for younger employees at my company. I do think it's quite hilarious that all of the older employees are claiming that their younger counterparts are doing just fine now that RTO is happening but just months ago were claiming that these newer hires were lazy or incompetent when WFH was at its zenith.