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It's because Salt Man doesn't believe it. He knows it's not the end of anything, it's the start of an insanely lucrative market. What he really wants is to cap

It's because Salt Man doesn't believe it. He knows it's not the end of anything, it's the start of an insanely lucrative market. What he really wants is to capture as much of this pie as he possibly can. In order to do that, he needs a monopoly or olygopoly. To achieve it, he needs the state to regulate the market, I mean, "to save humanity". That's why he's meeting with heads of state. And preaching the end of the world, so that the populace will support politicians' stupid regulatory proposals, carefully curated by Salt Man himself.

beardedwizard 3y ago
Completely agree. Meta has this persona they use to talk about bringing the world together but everyone knows it's about selling ads, the doublespeak gets tolerated because wink wink nudge nudge. I see these as two sides of the same coin. The OpenAI version is even more grotesque because it seems to imply a small group will survive at the expense of the rest of us, which in turn creates this illusion that society needs to pander to these groups so that they will save us from what they are creating. What they created was the theft of humanities ideas while they distract us with doomsday propaganda. It's so gross.
- cracrecry 3y ago
  >"The OpenAI version is even more grotesque because it seems to imply a small group will survive at the expense of the rest of us." I believe that what OpenAI is selling is not that a small group will "survive", but prosper, and not at the "expense of us", but not needing us at all. Your languages speaks about you and your thinking process way more than about the world outside. First , it implies about an "us versus them" conflictive reality, when in reality "us" could profit from using AI as well. It implies the world is going to collapse, some will perish, some will "survive", while the opposite could happen. >What they created was the theft of humanities ideas. Could ideas be "stolen"? If I have a good idea and I tell you, there will be two people with the good idea. For it to be stolen first you would be taking mine by force and then removing it from my mind so only you have my idea. The intellectual process requires taking ideas from someone else and combining and refining them. Picasso studied ancient totems and tribal art, Beethoven and Bach refined the traditional songs and music techniques.
  - beardedwizard 3y ago
    > Your languages speaks about you and your thinking process way more than about the world outside. Very presumptuous of you :). I'll return the favor and presume you work for openai. When I read things like end of humanity, or end of civilization I think of myself because im a civilized human. What are you? Have you stopped to consider your own biases? Regarding IP theft, the law suits speak for themselves. As does the hard pivot toward prohibiting content scraping through terms of service from the sites (and users, who have now been robbed twice) whose content was used to train openAI models. What do you think is driving that?
lewhoo 3y ago
> It's because Salt Man doesn't believe it. He knows it's not the end of anything, it's the start of an insanely lucrative market. Which is such a dick move to be frank. As if the world does not provide enough material to feed your depression or anxiety.

beardedwizard 3y ago

Completely agree. Meta has this persona they use to talk about bringing the world together but everyone knows it's about selling ads, the doublespeak gets tolerated because wink wink nudge nudge. I see these as two sides of the same coin. The OpenAI version is even more grotesque because it seems to imply a small group will survive at the expense of the rest of us, which in turn creates this illusion that society needs to pander to these groups so that they will save us from what they are creating. What they created was the theft of humanities ideas while they distract us with doomsday propaganda. It's so gross.

cracrecry 3y ago
>"The OpenAI version is even more grotesque because it seems to imply a small group will survive at the expense of the rest of us." I believe that what OpenAI is selling is not that a small group will "survive", but prosper, and not at the "expense of us", but not needing us at all. Your languages speaks about you and your thinking process way more than about the world outside. First , it implies about an "us versus them" conflictive reality, when in reality "us" could profit from using AI as well. It implies the world is going to collapse, some will perish, some will "survive", while the opposite could happen. >What they created was the theft of humanities ideas. Could ideas be "stolen"? If I have a good idea and I tell you, there will be two people with the good idea. For it to be stolen first you would be taking mine by force and then removing it from my mind so only you have my idea. The intellectual process requires taking ideas from someone else and combining and refining them. Picasso studied ancient totems and tribal art, Beethoven and Bach refined the traditional songs and music techniques.
- beardedwizard 3y ago
  > Your languages speaks about you and your thinking process way more than about the world outside. Very presumptuous of you :). I'll return the favor and presume you work for openai. When I read things like end of humanity, or end of civilization I think of myself because im a civilized human. What are you? Have you stopped to consider your own biases? Regarding IP theft, the law suits speak for themselves. As does the hard pivot toward prohibiting content scraping through terms of service from the sites (and users, who have now been robbed twice) whose content was used to train openAI models. What do you think is driving that?

lewhoo 3y ago

> It's because Salt Man doesn't believe it. He knows it's not the end of anything, it's the start of an insanely lucrative market. Which is such a dick move to be frank. As if the world does not provide enough material to feed your depression or anxiety.