> People with complicated ideas tend to get upset when you do that. Presumably because they don't actually understand their 'ideas' themselves and not so much

> People with complicated ideas tend to get upset when you do that. Presumably because they don't actually understand their 'ideas' themselves and not so much because they are complicated (I don't agree that most complicated ideas are nonsense it's just that it's rarely possible to discuss them without splitting them up/narrowing down to specific aspects. So chances are that a person who proposes one is incapable of doing either of those things so we end up with nonsense). But yeah that's a definitely a good approach