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It's annoying that the React team announced Server Components without a well defined spec, the wire protocol most significantly. Instead, it's a cabal between t

It's annoying that the React team announced Server Components without a well defined spec, the wire protocol most significantly. Instead, it's a cabal between the React team and Vercel which obviously is going to give them an inherent advantage and probably steer things in their favor, rather than the broader React ecosystem as a whole.

quonn 3y ago
It seems like there is a project on github called simple-rsc that works without Next.
danabramov 3y ago
The wire protocol isn't relevant -- it's an implementation detail of React, and both the client and the server for it are open source and in the React repository. Next uses those. So will Remix, Redwood, and other RSC frameworks. If you're curious: https://github.com/facebook/react/blob/main/packages/react-client/ https://github.com/facebook/react/blob/main/packages/react-c... https://github.com/facebook/react/tree/main/packages/react-server https://github.com/facebook/react/tree/main/packages/react-s...
- halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
  Dan, you can't deny that most (if not all) the comms from both the React team and Vercel make it obvious that Vercel is not only first-moving on RSC but working intimately with the React team to both vet the implementation and I'm sure offer (opinionated) advice on tweaks/direction. Also, links to packages with 5 line READMEs and no comments/documentation in the code might as well be called blackboxed. Yes, its open source but that's pretty much it. John or Jane Doe will have to deconstruct and/or assume the team's intention by combing through your links, https://github.com/reactwg/server-components/discussions/5 https://github.com/reactwg/server-components/discussions/5 and the (light) documentation from Vercel on how all this stuff really works. All I'm asking for is clarity and the ability to potentially create my own implementation rather than watch the "big guys" (read: frameworks) get the advantage by having access to information we don't have.

quonn 3y ago

It seems like there is a project on github called simple-rsc that works without Next.

danabramov 3y ago

The wire protocol isn't relevant -- it's an implementation detail of React, and both the client and the server for it are open source and in the React repository. Next uses those. So will Remix, Redwood, and other RSC frameworks. If you're curious: https://github.com/facebook/react/blob/main/packages/react-client/ https://github.com/facebook/react/blob/main/packages/react-c... https://github.com/facebook/react/tree/main/packages/react-server https://github.com/facebook/react/tree/main/packages/react-s...

halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
Dan, you can't deny that most (if not all) the comms from both the React team and Vercel make it obvious that Vercel is not only first-moving on RSC but working intimately with the React team to both vet the implementation and I'm sure offer (opinionated) advice on tweaks/direction. Also, links to packages with 5 line READMEs and no comments/documentation in the code might as well be called blackboxed. Yes, its open source but that's pretty much it. John or Jane Doe will have to deconstruct and/or assume the team's intention by combing through your links, https://github.com/reactwg/server-components/discussions/5 https://github.com/reactwg/server-components/discussions/5 and the (light) documentation from Vercel on how all this stuff really works. All I'm asking for is clarity and the ability to potentially create my own implementation rather than watch the "big guys" (read: frameworks) get the advantage by having access to information we don't have.