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The Overton window of weird dietary approaches shifts too. It started with ‘Atkins’ which became lo carb when he was debunked, which became paleo ‘cos that is c

The Overton window of weird dietary approaches shifts too. It started with ‘Atkins’ which became lo carb when he was debunked, which became paleo ‘cos that is cooler for the bro’s then this got more extreme as a carnivore only diet and some of those weirdos have moved onto only raw meat. Every internet meme gets more and more extreme.

grecy 3y ago
If we’re lucky the next one will be ‘No calories. Ever.’
- shard 3y ago
  As promoted by Famine in the book 'Foodless Dieting: Slim Yourself Beautiful ("The Diet Book Of The Century!")' https://wiki.lspace.org/Famine_(Good_Omens) https://wiki.lspace.org/Famine_(Good_Omens)
- talldatethrow 3y ago
  You might be kidding, but extended fasting, water fasting, and fasting while drinking salt/potassium water have millions of followers. I have personally tried fresh vegetable juice only for 30 days and I think it's amazing. I didn't even drink any actual water for 30 days, since I was drinking 1 gallon+ of vegetable juice a day (fresh juiced at home, not pasteurized garbage). I personally think the ideal diet would be vegetable juice plus some beef. Which is what most people would say ("hey, just eat a lot of salad and some meat sparingly"). Except it's way easier to drink 8 lbs of vegetables than it is to eat them.
  - grecy 3y ago
    I meant forever in the literal sense. Then we won't have to deal with these bro scientists anymore.
    - talldatethrow 3y ago
      I'd prefer a bro scientist to a morbidly obese person to be honest.
EatingWithForks 3y ago
I wish there was serious consideration that this might be a kind of manifestation of disordered eating. Being overly extreme about your diet can be a form of disordered eating, especially if it's unconnected to underlying condition like keto for epilepsy, gluten free for celiac's, etc. If you're a completely healthy man eating only raw meat, are you seriously any different from a woman who insists on eating only cabbage? I've seen people talk about how great their fasting diet is-- going days, upwards over a week without eating at a time-- and how amazing their feel not eating, etc. That basically also sounds like disordered eating.
J_Shelby_J 3y ago
Maybe, but cultural opinion about diets has always been shifting and multifaceted. For example, the high carb SAD being defacto is a new thing. It became the default around the same time as the agricultural revolution and mass media. Before that, there were lots of of options. During the period where mass media ruled, their was only one zeitgeist (brought to you by Kellogg’s!), but now with the internet we are back to historical norms where those with means are able to find advice free of commercial incentives and regulatory capture. For example, low carb has been around for centuries. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-carbohydrate_diet#history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-carbohydrate_diet#histor...

grecy 3y ago

If we’re lucky the next one will be ‘No calories. Ever.’

shard 3y ago
As promoted by Famine in the book 'Foodless Dieting: Slim Yourself Beautiful ("The Diet Book Of The Century!")' https://wiki.lspace.org/Famine_(Good_Omens) https://wiki.lspace.org/Famine_(Good_Omens)
talldatethrow 3y ago
You might be kidding, but extended fasting, water fasting, and fasting while drinking salt/potassium water have millions of followers. I have personally tried fresh vegetable juice only for 30 days and I think it's amazing. I didn't even drink any actual water for 30 days, since I was drinking 1 gallon+ of vegetable juice a day (fresh juiced at home, not pasteurized garbage). I personally think the ideal diet would be vegetable juice plus some beef. Which is what most people would say ("hey, just eat a lot of salad and some meat sparingly"). Except it's way easier to drink 8 lbs of vegetables than it is to eat them.
- grecy 3y ago
  I meant forever in the literal sense. Then we won't have to deal with these bro scientists anymore.
  - talldatethrow 3y ago
    I'd prefer a bro scientist to a morbidly obese person to be honest.

EatingWithForks 3y ago

I wish there was serious consideration that this might be a kind of manifestation of disordered eating. Being overly extreme about your diet can be a form of disordered eating, especially if it's unconnected to underlying condition like keto for epilepsy, gluten free for celiac's, etc. If you're a completely healthy man eating only raw meat, are you seriously any different from a woman who insists on eating only cabbage? I've seen people talk about how great their fasting diet is-- going days, upwards over a week without eating at a time-- and how amazing their feel not eating, etc. That basically also sounds like disordered eating.

J_Shelby_J 3y ago

Maybe, but cultural opinion about diets has always been shifting and multifaceted. For example, the high carb SAD being defacto is a new thing. It became the default around the same time as the agricultural revolution and mass media. Before that, there were lots of of options. During the period where mass media ruled, their was only one zeitgeist (brought to you by Kellogg’s!), but now with the internet we are back to historical norms where those with means are able to find advice free of commercial incentives and regulatory capture. For example, low carb has been around for centuries. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-carbohydrate_diet#history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-carbohydrate_diet#histor...