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Huawei hardware cannot be legally distributed or sold by US companies. There are bans on Huawei telecom equipment, but their phones, tablets, smartwatches, etc

Huawei hardware cannot be legally distributed or sold by US companies. There are bans on Huawei telecom equipment, but their phones, tablets, smartwatches, etc are not banned and are readily available: https://www.newegg.com/Huawei/BrandStore/ID-15388 https://www.newegg.com/Huawei/BrandStore/ID-15388 https://www.amazon.com/stores/Huawei/page/34F6034C-1D34-4913-9648-3DBD220C1648 https://www.amazon.com/stores/Huawei/page/34F6034C-1D34-4913...

manuelabeledo 3y ago
These are older devices, and most of them are sold out already. That T3 10 is now over 6 years old, for example.
- thowfaraway 3y ago
  The p60 pro is released this year and available: https://www.newegg.com/p/23B-001M-007X6 https://www.newegg.com/p/23B-001M-007X6
  - manuelabeledo 3y ago
    Global version and carries no warranty, meaning imported. You can find all sorts of weird imported stuff in Amazon and NewEgg from third party sellers. Still not legal for US companies to distribute Huawei phones, though.
    - WillPostForFood 3y ago
      Global version and carries no warranty, meaning imported. Obviously they are imported, that's the point. They are imported Chinese phones. Amazon and Newegg are US companies distributing imported Chinese Huawei phones. There is a ban on Huawei telecom equipment, and a ban on selling tech to Huawei, but show me where phones are banned.
      - manuelabeledo 3y ago
        > Obviously they are imported, that's the point. "Imported" here only means that they crossed the border, not that they are being lawfully distributed in the US. > Amazon and Newegg are US companies distributing imported Chinese Huawei phones. Not true. Third party resellers are importing and selling some Huawei phones. > ... show me where phones are banned. Can you buy a Huawei phone from a retailer in the US? Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart? Or from a telecom? AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile? Huawei and ZTE have also both been banned from getting FCC licenses. You could definitely buy a Huawei phone in the US, but it wouldn't be licensed by the FCC.
        WillPostForFood 3y ago
        >Can you buy a Huawei phone from a retailer in the US? Amazon yes, I already shared the links. https://www.amazon.com/HUAWEI-P60-Pro-MNA-LX9-Unlocked/dp/B0C1H26C46/ https://www.amazon.com/HUAWEI-P60-Pro-MNA-LX9-Unlocked/dp/B0... >Third party resellers are importing and selling some Huawei phones. It is a distinction without a difference. I buy on Amazon, I pay on Amazon. They have a complicated supply chain with third party sellers, but it doesn't make them immune from import bans. >Huawei and ZTE have also both been banned from getting FCC licenses. Yes, that is true, but yet to see any citation of an ban on imports, sale, or use.
        manuelabeledo 3y ago
        > It is a distinction without a difference. I buy on Amazon, I pay on Amazon. They have a complicated supply chain with third party sellers, but it doesn't make them immune from import bans. Amazon third party sellers work like Ebay. You are suggesting that when you buy something off Ebay, it is Ebay the one selling you the stuff, which is clearly not true. You could find things on Amazon that aren't licensed to be sold in the US. That doesn't make them suddenly "legal". > Yes, that is true, but yet to see any citation of an ban on imports, sale, or use. If they cannot get a FCC license, they cannot legally distribute or sell their phones in US soil. That's just FCC rules [0] But I'm honestly not sure what you are trying to prove here. For example, I recently bought a Japanese Sony gadget on Ebay. It has Bluetooth. It definitely does not have a FCC sticker, nor has been licensed by the FCC. I was able to buy it, but Sony is not allowed to sell it in the US. Does the fact that I bought it from an US website, mean that Sony is effectively selling this gadget in the US? Of course not, that's ridiculous. [0] https://www.fcc.gov/enforcement/areas/equipment-authorization-marketing-importation#:~:text=Rules%20%26%20Statutes,-These%20sections%20of&text=rules%20that%20apply-,47%20CFR%20§%202.803%20%2D%20With%20limited%20exceptions%2C%20no%20radiofrequency%20device,FCC%27s%20authorization%20and%20labeling%20rules https://www.fcc.gov/enforcement/areas/equipment-authorizatio....
formerly_proven 3y ago
Huawei servers continue to be as popular as ever as well. edit: It's of course not Huawei, it's a totally new and different company which bought Huawei's server business a week after being founded, silly me.

manuelabeledo 3y ago

These are older devices, and most of them are sold out already. That T3 10 is now over 6 years old, for example.

thowfaraway 3y ago
The p60 pro is released this year and available: https://www.newegg.com/p/23B-001M-007X6 https://www.newegg.com/p/23B-001M-007X6
- manuelabeledo 3y ago
  Global version and carries no warranty, meaning imported. You can find all sorts of weird imported stuff in Amazon and NewEgg from third party sellers. Still not legal for US companies to distribute Huawei phones, though.
  - WillPostForFood 3y ago
    Global version and carries no warranty, meaning imported. Obviously they are imported, that's the point. They are imported Chinese phones. Amazon and Newegg are US companies distributing imported Chinese Huawei phones. There is a ban on Huawei telecom equipment, and a ban on selling tech to Huawei, but show me where phones are banned.
    - manuelabeledo 3y ago
      > Obviously they are imported, that's the point. "Imported" here only means that they crossed the border, not that they are being lawfully distributed in the US. > Amazon and Newegg are US companies distributing imported Chinese Huawei phones. Not true. Third party resellers are importing and selling some Huawei phones. > ... show me where phones are banned. Can you buy a Huawei phone from a retailer in the US? Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart? Or from a telecom? AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile? Huawei and ZTE have also both been banned from getting FCC licenses. You could definitely buy a Huawei phone in the US, but it wouldn't be licensed by the FCC.
      - WillPostForFood 3y ago
        >Can you buy a Huawei phone from a retailer in the US? Amazon yes, I already shared the links. https://www.amazon.com/HUAWEI-P60-Pro-MNA-LX9-Unlocked/dp/B0C1H26C46/ https://www.amazon.com/HUAWEI-P60-Pro-MNA-LX9-Unlocked/dp/B0... >Third party resellers are importing and selling some Huawei phones. It is a distinction without a difference. I buy on Amazon, I pay on Amazon. They have a complicated supply chain with third party sellers, but it doesn't make them immune from import bans. >Huawei and ZTE have also both been banned from getting FCC licenses. Yes, that is true, but yet to see any citation of an ban on imports, sale, or use.
        manuelabeledo 3y ago
        > It is a distinction without a difference. I buy on Amazon, I pay on Amazon. They have a complicated supply chain with third party sellers, but it doesn't make them immune from import bans. Amazon third party sellers work like Ebay. You are suggesting that when you buy something off Ebay, it is Ebay the one selling you the stuff, which is clearly not true. You could find things on Amazon that aren't licensed to be sold in the US. That doesn't make them suddenly "legal". > Yes, that is true, but yet to see any citation of an ban on imports, sale, or use. If they cannot get a FCC license, they cannot legally distribute or sell their phones in US soil. That's just FCC rules [0] But I'm honestly not sure what you are trying to prove here. For example, I recently bought a Japanese Sony gadget on Ebay. It has Bluetooth. It definitely does not have a FCC sticker, nor has been licensed by the FCC. I was able to buy it, but Sony is not allowed to sell it in the US. Does the fact that I bought it from an US website, mean that Sony is effectively selling this gadget in the US? Of course not, that's ridiculous. [0] https://www.fcc.gov/enforcement/areas/equipment-authorization-marketing-importation#:~:text=Rules%20%26%20Statutes,-These%20sections%20of&text=rules%20that%20apply-,47%20CFR%20§%202.803%20%2D%20With%20limited%20exceptions%2C%20no%20radiofrequency%20device,FCC%27s%20authorization%20and%20labeling%20rules https://www.fcc.gov/enforcement/areas/equipment-authorizatio....

formerly_proven 3y ago

Huawei servers continue to be as popular as ever as well. edit: It's of course not Huawei, it's a totally new and different company which bought Huawei's server business a week after being founded, silly me.