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Are you deliberately ignoring vaccination? I genuinely can't tell if I'm being trolled into a conspiracy argument or not. But just in case: The vaccines turn

by ajross 3y ago

Are you deliberately ignoring vaccination? I genuinely can't tell if I'm being trolled into a conspiracy argument or not. But just in case: The vaccines turned an extremely dangerous pandemic into a tolerable-if-still-worrisome endemic disease. This lancet paper represents a pretty good consensus belief that vaccines saved 14M lives. Our "willingness to accept a lost cause" was informed heavily by the justfied belief that it wouldn't kill us. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3... Basically, yeah. "All that stuff worked".

lr1970 3y ago
> The vaccines turned an extremely dangerous pandemic into a tolerable-if-still-worrisome endemic disease. Effective vaccinations were pretty much limited to the first world countries. Third world countries either did not have access to vaccines or used subpar ones like russia's sputnik. I would like to see a scientific study comparing the duration of pandemic in vaccinated vs non-vaccinated countries. It would be apples to oranges comparison but there are be some interesting insights to learn.
- quacked 3y ago
  https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/04/992544022/one-of-the-worlds-poorest-countries-has-one-of-the-worlds-lowest-covid-death-rat https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/04/9925440...
  - genman 3y ago
    It says that most Haitians are young (see the population pyramid for example to get an idea how young) and were not affected much by the virus and they don't care (about their old) that much because they have their own difficulty to stay alive and not starving. But it for sure affected them https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?locations=HT https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?location...
free_glamorgan 3y ago
>This lancet paper represents a pretty good consensus belief The paper represents an effort to support a particular hypothesis using curve-fitting. The Bible represents a "pretty good consensus belief".

by ajross 3y ago

lr1970 3y ago

> The vaccines turned an extremely dangerous pandemic into a tolerable-if-still-worrisome endemic disease. Effective vaccinations were pretty much limited to the first world countries. Third world countries either did not have access to vaccines or used subpar ones like russia's sputnik. I would like to see a scientific study comparing the duration of pandemic in vaccinated vs non-vaccinated countries. It would be apples to oranges comparison but there are be some interesting insights to learn.

quacked 3y ago
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/04/992544022/one-of-the-worlds-poorest-countries-has-one-of-the-worlds-lowest-covid-death-rat https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/04/9925440...
- genman 3y ago
  It says that most Haitians are young (see the population pyramid for example to get an idea how young) and were not affected much by the virus and they don't care (about their old) that much because they have their own difficulty to stay alive and not starving. But it for sure affected them https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?locations=HT https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?location...

free_glamorgan 3y ago

>This lancet paper represents a pretty good consensus belief The paper represents an effort to support a particular hypothesis using curve-fitting. The Bible represents a "pretty good consensus belief".