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Because whole grains have fiber and other nutrients that makes them extremely healthy. No one is getting fat off of oatmeal with berries and raw oranges, they'

Because whole grains have fiber and other nutrients that makes them extremely healthy. No one is getting fat off of oatmeal with berries and raw oranges, they're getting fat off all the cinnamon-sugar they slather on top of the oatmeal and the glass of no-pulp orange juice with added sugar they have as a beverage. Also fast food and sodas.

myrmidon 3y ago
Just wanted to add: Neither "non-pulp" nor "added sugar" is the main problem with orange juice. The real problem becomes very obvious if you prepare the fruit juice yourself: The fruit needed to produce even a single glass of apple or orange juice (which is quite easy to drink/sip quickly) is a lot if you were to consume it raw (basically not doable, or at least I'm not gonna eat like 4 apples at once). Juicing fruit makes it much easier to overconsume fruit sugar.
- kwhitefoot 3y ago
  > Juicing fruit makes it much easier to overconsume fruit sugar. It's worse than simply making it easier to consume large quantities of fruit. Even if you consume only the same amount of fruit as you would be willing to eat unprocessed juicing it makes the sugars more available so that you over consume even without appearing to consume a lot.
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  I made a rule to myself - no juices, pulp, no pulp, doesnt matter. Way too much simple carbs for it to be ever healthy. I can literally taste all the sweetness since I generally avoid sugars, even if I make it myself with all the pulp possible. Like that, I don't have any needs for those, no cravings or urges to pour glass ie when eating in hotel, in same way I have 0 craving for sugary/worse sodas. The thing is, most of the pulp stays in the juicing machine regardless. Thats why you don't drink solid apple, just juice from it. So I eat those fruits, but oranges almost never, apples more so. Vegetables are so much healthier, a good bio carrot is my friend #1 also due to better processing of sunshine in the skin. You can teach yourself almost anything with a smidge of discipline, but its much easier if your parents just dont fuck up your upbringing and don't make this and other junkfood into some idiotic rewards (or just don't care at all), so you just continue that trend into adulthood.

myrmidon 3y ago

Just wanted to add: Neither "non-pulp" nor "added sugar" is the main problem with orange juice. The real problem becomes very obvious if you prepare the fruit juice yourself: The fruit needed to produce even a single glass of apple or orange juice (which is quite easy to drink/sip quickly) is a lot if you were to consume it raw (basically not doable, or at least I'm not gonna eat like 4 apples at once). Juicing fruit makes it much easier to overconsume fruit sugar.

kwhitefoot 3y ago
> Juicing fruit makes it much easier to overconsume fruit sugar. It's worse than simply making it easier to consume large quantities of fruit. Even if you consume only the same amount of fruit as you would be willing to eat unprocessed juicing it makes the sugars more available so that you over consume even without appearing to consume a lot.
saiya-jin 3y ago
I made a rule to myself - no juices, pulp, no pulp, doesnt matter. Way too much simple carbs for it to be ever healthy. I can literally taste all the sweetness since I generally avoid sugars, even if I make it myself with all the pulp possible. Like that, I don't have any needs for those, no cravings or urges to pour glass ie when eating in hotel, in same way I have 0 craving for sugary/worse sodas. The thing is, most of the pulp stays in the juicing machine regardless. Thats why you don't drink solid apple, just juice from it. So I eat those fruits, but oranges almost never, apples more so. Vegetables are so much healthier, a good bio carrot is my friend #1 also due to better processing of sunshine in the skin. You can teach yourself almost anything with a smidge of discipline, but its much easier if your parents just dont fuck up your upbringing and don't make this and other junkfood into some idiotic rewards (or just don't care at all), so you just continue that trend into adulthood.