great links, thank you! > Refine the age of "kid", or at least where their abilities already are because this would be a big endeavor for most elementary schoo

great links, thank you! > Refine the age of "kid", or at least where their abilities already are because this would be a big endeavor for most elementary school age kids. "kid" was a bad reference point, Petzold's "COde" book is a better text equivalent of what I am looking for